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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2019, 01:11:31 PM »
I don't know, but if something like this happens, we can't undo it. I always pray that at the very least something good can come from it. What that is? I don't know.
Unfortunately history has shown us noting good has come from these attacks. That is why "thoughts and prayers" are not the answer.

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2019, 01:12:09 PM »
I am familiar, but the difference between us and them, is that there aren't any sect of jews carrying out terror attacks randomly the way radical Muslims do. So along comes someone who can't comprehend they're not all radical, and kills the innocent for the deeds of the radical. While completely wrong, it can at least be "masked" with avenging those lost to terror(a well person would understand this isn't so). Killing jews seems to jest be pure hatred. Regardless, I've said more than I'd like to on the topic, so I'll let it rest, as should the souls of all those killed.

They don't either understand that not all Jews are George Soros. They don't understand that not all Jews push an intersectional, interracial agenda or force people to accept that males and females are interchangeable. They don't understand that not all Jews are Karl Marx or Leon Trotsky. In fact, those so called "Jews" are not religious at all and don't care about Judaism in the least. Yet the meme propaganda that White Supremacist Nazis post are always of Jews with a beard, yarmulke and payos -- the Jews that are actually Right wing and Conservative.

These people hate Jews far more than they hate Muslims. They are angry and writing how this was all in vain because "he didn't mention the Jew" in his manifesto and that he didn't kill even one Jew.

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2019, 01:13:51 PM »
I am going on the premise she is talking about Trump's comments.
Her comments are about the US.
Just saw this:
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1106419873922584577
So nothing directly to do with Trump, although I don't understand what her problem is with the NRA when NZ already has very strict gun laws.

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2019, 01:15:00 PM »
Unfortunately history has shown us noting good has come from these attacks. That is why "thoughts and prayers" are not the answer.
All I can do is pray.
Memories last forever, make them while you can.

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2019, 01:15:16 PM »
What is she trying to say?

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1106408088603713536
She clarified in a later tweet that she is politicizing this event for her anti individual rights/gun rights agenda.

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2019, 01:17:39 PM »
So nothing directly to do with Trump, although I don't understand what her problem is with the NRA when NZ already has very strict gun laws.
You don't understand her problem with the NRA? That's like saying why does the left have a problem with Trump or the NRA.

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2019, 01:20:55 PM »
She clarified in a later tweet that she is politicizing this event for her anti individual rights/gun rights agenda.

Correct. The way the Left works is that whomever cheers the loudest gets the most points. They must write at least one anti-Trump comment on Twitter per day or else they are out of the contest.

"Trump's fault" = 1 point
"NRA's fault" = 2 points

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2019, 01:26:55 PM »
Correct. The way the Left works is that whomever cheers the loudest gets the most points. They must write at least one anti-Trump comment on Twitter per day or else they are out of the contest.

"Trump's fault" = 1 point
"NRA's fault" = 2 points
IMHO you have it wrong. T=2 and NRA=1.
How about the "right" contest? You want to comment on that? It seems you only see things one way.

Here we are like always making this a left/right issue when innocent people are getting killed. Just keep giving our "thoughts and prayers" as more and more get murdered!

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2019, 01:29:09 PM »
Here we are like always making this a left/right issue when innocent people are getting killed. Just keep giving our "thoughts and prayers" as more and more get murdered!
"Meaningless thoughts and prayers"? Well, I suppose if you are an atheist then it's meaningless.

"We want action!". What action would that be?

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2019, 01:43:07 PM »
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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2019, 01:43:12 PM »
don't shoot the messenger.


Can I just say, really poor choice of words here.
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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2019, 01:59:37 PM »
Can I just say, really poor choice of words here.
Agree.

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2019, 02:20:23 PM »
Where is the world when this happenes in Israel? Even Obama refused to condemn Rubins. Every rocket that gets thrown at a civilian town is just as tragic as such a story.

And, I haven’t seen any clips of sweets being handed out to children in Tel Aviv today, unlike...

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2019, 02:23:02 PM »
What kind of sicko statement is this? Innocent people where murdered in a place of worship.

100%. This happens to us every day in the holy land and no one says a word.

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2019, 02:28:37 PM »
Post tragedy threads on DDF have the sensitivity of an elephant walking over potato chips.

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2019, 02:31:00 PM »
Post tragedy threads on DDF have the sensitivity of an elephant walking over potato chips.

checked DDF for the @Yehuda57 meta comment on the discussion itself. wasn't disappointed.

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2019, 02:32:36 PM »
checked DDF for the @Yehuda57 meta comment on the discussion itself. wasn't disappointed.

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2019, 02:54:59 PM »
Can I just say, really poor choice of words here.

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2019, 03:08:07 PM »
This happens to us every day in the holy land and no one says a word.
Who is us? 49 people get murdered everyday in places of worship in the Holy Land?

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Re: Man livestreams himself shooting up a mosque
« Reply #59 on: March 15, 2019, 03:38:59 PM »
They don't either understand that not all Jews are George Soros. They don't understand that not all Jews push an intersectional, interracial agenda or force people to accept that males and females are interchangeable. They don't understand that not all Jews are Karl Marx or Leon Trotsky. In fact, those so called "Jews" are not religious at all and don't care about Judaism in the least. Yet the meme propaganda that White Supremacist Nazis post are always of Jews with a beard, yarmulke and payos -- the Jews that are actually Right wing and Conservative.

These people hate Jews far more than they hate Muslims. They are angry and writing how this was all in vain because "he didn't mention the Jew" in his manifesto and that he didn't kill even one Jew.

I think about this a lot, even more now that there seems to be anti-semitic acts cropping up in the news daily. I work in a firm where, quite literally, I am one of two shomer shabbos people in the firm, and the only one to wear a yarmulka. There are many other jews in the firm, but very few of them have any kind of 'shaychus'.

I realized, that for most of these people, I am the ONLY Orthodox person they know, and possibly have ever known. I am the source of all of their questions about Judaism and the mideast.  I get asked questions (thankfully know one at work has asked me the 'sheet' question) ranging from - "Why is Israel killing Palestinian Babies'? to 'My daughter is going to a friend's bat mitzvah next week, how should she dress for synagogue?".

In a sense, I am the ambassador for the jewish people, and I do my best to be a good ambassador.

IMHO, most hatred comes from ignorance. If you do your best to educate the haters, some of them might just become non-haters.