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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #220 on: January 30, 2020, 04:07:06 PM »
How long after accounts closed can I try to apply again?
got shut down after FR, if it matters.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #221 on: February 05, 2020, 11:38:45 AM »
How long after accounts closed can I try to apply again?
got shut down after FR, if it matters.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Right away. If you apply within 30 days of closing they may not pull hard credit. You will need to submit a 4506T.
I assume you closed them before FR team shut them down?
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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #222 on: February 19, 2020, 07:08:13 PM »
Not sure how AmEx would know his Amazon CC was being used for BGs...
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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #223 on: February 19, 2020, 07:29:27 PM »
Not sure how AmEx would know his Amazon CC was being used for BGs...
AI could pick that up in no time if that's what they're looking for.
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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #224 on: February 19, 2020, 07:32:01 PM »
AI could pick that up in no time if that's what they're looking for.
Amex is very well aware of the activity going on on the prime cards, they don't need an AI to pick that up. They also haven't seemed to care about it as of yet.
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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #225 on: February 19, 2020, 07:58:32 PM »
Past performance is no guarantee of future results
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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #226 on: February 19, 2020, 08:05:05 PM »
Past performance is no guarantee of future results
True but unless we hear of other shutdowns it doesn't make sense that the OP was shutdown for spend on a Prime card, regardless of where the product was being shipped to. Of course, I could be wrong but I'd be willing to bet it wasn't because of BG's.
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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #227 on: February 19, 2020, 09:31:43 PM »
AI could pick that up in no time if that's what they're looking for.

AI? So the algo flags a person who uses Amazon a lot? Nah.

And, if that was an issue, we'd hear about it the world over.
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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #228 on: February 20, 2020, 02:41:47 AM »
LOL
mind explaining to the ignorant whats so funny?

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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #229 on: February 20, 2020, 02:44:27 AM »
whats AI?

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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #230 on: February 20, 2020, 02:52:33 AM »
Amex is very well aware of the activity going on on the prime cards, they don't need an AI to pick that up. They also haven't seemed to care about it as of yet.
i'd assume they dont care, the 5% is not a signup bonus, if they built a card based on that model, it means they are still making $ off it even after they give 5% back. i'd assume they should be happier the more spending that u do
correct me if my reasoning is wrong

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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #231 on: February 20, 2020, 08:15:29 AM »
Does Amazon subsidize the 5% cash back? If so, maybe they have a say in who gets shut down?
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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #232 on: February 20, 2020, 08:26:48 AM »
whats AI?
artificial intelligence.
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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #233 on: February 20, 2020, 10:58:42 AM »
Does Amazon subsidize the 5% cash back? If so, maybe they have a say in who gets shut down?
same reasoning goes for amazon, if they didnt make $ from ppl spending at amazon and getting 5% back, whatever their share in it is, they wouldnt have participated in building such a card. it is not a 1 time signup bonus, where they lose now to gain later, it is a card built to be that way

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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #234 on: February 20, 2020, 11:00:32 AM »
same reasoning goes for amazon, if they didnt make $ from ppl spending at amazon and getting 5% back, whatever their share in it is, they wouldnt have participated in building such a card. it is not a 1 time signup bonus, where they lose now to gain later, it is a card built to be that way
If they wanted BGs they wouldn't have added quantity limits on most products sold
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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #235 on: February 20, 2020, 11:48:16 AM »
If they wanted BGs they wouldn't have added quantity limits on most products sold
so u r saying u think amex is shutting down accounts where they believe BG's are being used for spending ?

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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #236 on: February 20, 2020, 12:15:15 PM »
so u r saying u think amex is shutting down accounts where they believe BG's are being used for spending ?
No. I'm saying it's funny that people don't realize that something like that can be a trigger.
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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #237 on: February 20, 2020, 12:40:16 PM »
I don't buy it.

That he used his card a lot on Amazon (even for BGs) isn't the cause of his shutdown, or even a trigger, as we'd have hundreds if not thousands of DPs to support it.


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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #238 on: February 20, 2020, 12:46:40 PM »
If they wanted BGs they wouldn't have added quantity limits on most products sold

They probably have to do that as part of their agreements with the manufacturers.

They could easily cancel orders the way best buy and b&h do.

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Re: Amex Closed Accounts
« Reply #239 on: February 20, 2020, 12:51:40 PM »
I don't buy it.

That he used his card a lot on Amazon (even for BGs) isn't the cause of his shutdown, or even a trigger, as we'd have hundreds if not thousands of DPs to support it.
Perhaps, but surely it's only a matter of time before the RATs catch on.
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