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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2019, 01:42:55 PM »
Did they arrange for the bachorim to go to a different yeshiva, or do they expect them to go learn behind J2?

I understand that it is the end of the zman, but can all 80 kids get into a new yeshiva next zman?
Didn't sound like most were thrown out, just suspended

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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2019, 01:49:35 PM »
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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2019, 01:53:46 PM »
"JS [is] a fetid cesspool of unvarnished linguistic manure, with lots of useless drivel and post-padding." -Moishebatchy

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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2019, 01:54:55 PM »
Wow
He's just stating the obvious in a very calm and measured way. I kept my mouth shut, because I wouldn't be able to control myself. ;)

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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2019, 02:00:22 PM »
He's just stating the obvious in a very calm and measured way. I kept my mouth shut, because I wouldn't be able to control myself. ;)
And he has a bit more clout

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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2019, 02:07:04 PM »
And he has a bit more clout
He deserves it if he's not afraid to use it.

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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2019, 02:08:14 PM »
He deserves it if he's not afraid to use it.
Totally agree

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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2019, 02:12:25 PM »
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While I don't know much about the clout of the Bostoner Rebbe, the fact that a leader/Rebbe wrote the letter, highlights the issue.

I'm still trying to figure out what the Yeshivas explaination is...it makes no sense to me to throw out 80 Bochorim... ( Unless there are some major issues going on there and they used this story as a front..)

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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2019, 02:15:18 PM »
I think that if the yeshiva believes it was unproper for the bochurim to go, and the bochurim believe that they must go, everyone should be happy with the way things turned out. Bochurim (and certainly high school age) should not be in a yeshiva with such a different philosophy than their own.

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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2019, 02:23:26 PM »
Did they arrange for the bachorim to go to a different yeshiva, or do they expect them to go learn behind J2?

I understand that it is the end of the zman, but can all 80 kids get into a new yeshiva next zman?

THIS is IMHO a much more significant issue than what is brought in the letter of the Bostoner. We are talking דיני נפשות ממש!!!!
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2019, 02:29:41 PM »
I think that if the yeshiva believes it was unproper for the bochurim to go, and the bochurim believe that they must go, everyone should be happy with the way things turned out. Bochurim (and certainly high school age) should not be in a yeshiva with such a different philosophy than their own.
C'mon...you never disagreed with your yeshiva? Never banded together to do something? Thought if everyone is doing it...

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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2019, 02:34:34 PM »
Is Mesivta of Lakewood affiliated with The Establishment?
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2019, 02:58:26 PM »
C'mon...you never disagreed with your yeshiva?

About something so fundamental? No. And if I did, I would do what I think is right, and accept whatever the consequences were.

Never banded together to do something? Thought if everyone is doing it...


If there were bochurim who went because everyone was going, not because they thought it was important (and my guess is that there probably were some), should pay a heavy price.


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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2019, 03:14:42 PM »
About something so fundamental? No. And if I did, I would do what I think is right, and accept whatever the consequences were.

If there were bochurim who went because everyone was going, not because they thought it was important (and my guess is that there probably were some), should pay a heavy price.
What the Yeshiva did was EXTREME. if you believe that it's appropriate because "if you disagree you don't belong there"

I have nothing further to say

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Re: Thrown out of Yeshiva for?
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2019, 03:46:07 PM »
What the Yeshiva did was EXTREME. if you believe that it's appropriate because "if you disagree you don't belong there"

I have nothing further to say
Everything about Mesivta of Lakewood is extreme. It's also extreme that bein hazemanim goes from י"ג ניסן till isru chag.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.