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Re: This Board Is Now Restricted To Bronze Elite Members
« Reply #60 on: April 05, 2019, 12:23:39 PM »
For one, people have been telling people to post more.
The post padding deletions and PMs are getting unbearable. Might need to undo this and/or just delete this board.
Delete a whole board because of a few scammers? While I think the new system is smart, it would be a huge shame to lose this feature on DDF because of a few idiots. Bottom line is, people do this at their own risk..

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Re: This Board Is Now Restricted To Bronze Elite Members
« Reply #61 on: April 05, 2019, 12:25:00 PM »
For one, people have been telling people to post more.
The post padding deletions and PMs are getting unbearable. Might need to undo this and/or just delete this board.
Would it help if you restrict n00bs from posting but allow them to see posts? Or are you worried that scammers will still be able to get through via PM?

I really hope you don't delete the board.
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Re: This Board Is Now Restricted To Bronze Elite Members
« Reply #62 on: April 05, 2019, 12:25:09 PM »
For one, people have been telling people to post more.
The post padding deletions and PMs are getting unbearable. Might need to undo this and/or just delete this board.
25 makes post padding to get there too easy. With a higher number of posts it will make it worse from those who will try anyhow but better from everyone else. The post padding will also be mostly temporary as people who previously had access and lost it try to get it back. Once that is done it should get better. I also think that banning after too many pad posts will also help. Those are exactly the ones we are trying to filter out.
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« Reply #63 on: April 05, 2019, 12:31:45 PM »
Should need more than 3783
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Re: This Board Is Now Restricted To Bronze Elite Members
« Reply #64 on: April 05, 2019, 12:54:08 PM »
25 makes post padding to get there too easy. With a higher number of posts it will make it worse from those who will try anyhow but better from everyone else. The post padding will also be mostly temporary as people who previously had access and lost it try to get it back. Once that is done it should get better. I also think that banning after too many pad posts will also help. Those are exactly the ones we are trying to filter out.
People will just pad even more.

At this point I'm thinking of removing the restriction and reminding people that this place is the wild west.
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« Reply #65 on: April 05, 2019, 01:08:48 PM »
Which specific goods are high risk? Maybe make a separate board for high risk and low risk

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Re: This Board Is Now Restricted To Bronze Elite Members
« Reply #66 on: April 05, 2019, 01:14:44 PM »



At this point I'm thinking of removing the restriction and reminding people that this place is the wild west.
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I don't like a policy that encourages post padding. Makes it more difficult to spot the likely scammers.
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Re: This Board Is Now Restricted To Bronze Elite Members
« Reply #67 on: April 05, 2019, 01:15:27 PM »


At this point I'm thinking of removing the restriction and reminding people that this place is the wild west.
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Re: This Board Is Now Restricted To Bronze Elite Members
« Reply #68 on: April 05, 2019, 01:27:16 PM »
25 posts (or 50, or a minimum time on the forum) does not an honest man make.

There have been thousands of successful transactions here, including many with n00bs. I think put everything back the way it was and caveat emptor.
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Re: This Board Is Now Restricted To Bronze Elite Members
« Reply #69 on: April 05, 2019, 01:35:11 PM »
25 posts (or 50, or a minimum time on the forum) does not an honest man make.

There have been thousands of successful transactions here, including many with n00bs. I think put everything back the way it was and caveat emptor.
Fair enough. You've all been warned.
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« Reply #70 on: April 05, 2019, 01:37:27 PM »
there are no perfect solutions.  I would just ask for candid feedback from buy or sellers references before performing any transactions. 

There are quite few buyers from my listing that would not be able to see the post if it would require 25 posting.  I would just go with hat tips and references.

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Which specific goods are high risk? Maybe make a separate board for high risk and low risk
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« Reply #72 on: April 05, 2019, 01:52:15 PM »
Just throwing an idea out there, if somebody wants to become an escrow agent on the forum (endorsed by mods?) gets a cut from seller for each sale, seller benefits by gaining trust for selling through escrow

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Just throwing an idea out there, if somebody wants to become an escrow agent on the forum (endorsed by mods?) gets a cut from seller for each sale, seller benefits by gaining trust for selling through escrow
Still won't help if buyer sells a fraudulent GC or voucher.
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« Reply #74 on: April 05, 2019, 02:02:00 PM »
Still won't help if buyer sells a fraudulent GC or voucher.
Escrow policy: Seller only gets money released after buyer confirms it not to be fraudulent

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Forum policy: Seller only gets money released after buyer confirms it not to be fraudulent
And how about if he can pull it back later...
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« Reply #76 on: April 05, 2019, 02:13:00 PM »
And how about if he can pull it back later...
Agree GC is the tough outlier, how about giving the buyer 7 days to use it up before escrow is released?

I think overall an escrow agent would solve 99% of the fraud here.

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Using PayPal 'goods and services' should be a good solution, no?

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Instead of all the restrictions being put in place, one needs to use his head before buying anything on the forum.

 Most of my transactions were done with members who have a nice amount of posts, as well one with HatTips and likes is even more of a reason to trust them.

 When one would go to Manhattan to see a vendor selling camcorders for half the price you would see it in the store, would you buy it?
 Well maybe yes and then again maybe no, some would buy and some would stay far away with a 10 foot pole.
 Now those that buy should be smart enough that if im buying such a product, I'm going to open the product in front of the guys face to make sure there's no rocks and newspapers in the packaging instead of the camcorder.
   So the same applies here, when one is going to trek in the wet waters you got to make sure you know how to swim and stay safe, if your unsure then stay away.

  In English if your unsure STAY away, if people realize that I'm not having any luck around the forum selling stuff, people will start to realize if I slowly spent some time here on the forum and build some relationship I will be trusted and ppl would want to do business with me.
 All it takes is one stupid transaction and that username is toast, especially a newbie who spent 2 months trying to gain trust and he does a fraudulent transaction, there goes his two months of work.

  Again as the famous saying goes..  "Better safe than sorry"

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