PSA: Trading With New Members! READ THIS AND DON'T GET SCAMMED!

[israbear89]

Although that is definitely a general issue with newbies (myself included sometimes) that's not the same thing as being scammed.

Im not saying you cant vent about ppl who flake. And yes time is money. But I don't believe theres malicious intent in those cases when someone backs out.

And as for my unwarranted two cents I agree with the PSA. As we've seen time and time again (buying groups, swiping etc) people can be naively trusting. There's also a certain level of trust in the forum by association as it's attached to the main website and ppl trust Dan.

If there is no vetting then it goes the same way in terms of don't give what you cant afford to lose.



 

[moko]

As a general rule, when buying and selling on the forums, who covers the PayPal fees?

[mmgfarb]

As a general rule, when buying and selling on the forums, who covers the PayPal fees?

Whoever wants the other person to use G&S instead of F&F

[mauiguy]

As a general rule, when buying and selling on the forums, who covers the PayPal fees?

You can send $$ through PP without fees if its from your bank account and not CC.

[myi]

You can send $$ through PP without fees if its from your bank account and not CC.

Correct but then you wouldn't be covered for a deal that went South.

[CountValentine]

As a general rule, when buying and selling on the forums, who covers the PayPal fees?

What fees? If the trade is for $100 it is for $100.

[Pad18]

What fees? If the trade is for $100 it is for $100.

When you send money with pp as 'friends' and something goes wrong you don't have any options to dispute/ask for help from pp. And there is no charge by pp.
However when you send as 'pays for good' you could open a dispute and pp if you're right could reimburse you.
And they charge the a fee.

So he is asking who need to this fee, seller or buyer.

[CountValentine]

When you send money with pp as 'friends' and something goes wrong you don't have any options to dispute/ask for help from pp. And there is no charge by pp.
However when you send as 'pays for good' you could open a dispute and pp if you're right could reimburse you.
And they charge the a fee.

So he is asking who need to this fee, seller or buyer.

if you agree to buy something for $100 then you need to get $100 to the seller.

[ckmk47]

if you agree to buy something for $100 then you need to get $100 to the seller.

But  the seller may be the one asking to be protected by PayPal - producing fees.

[myi]

if you agree to buy something for $100 then you need to get $100 to the seller.

So you can understand, I have an S9 and I sold it to Countvalentine and guess what I have such a good reputation here on DDF and I managed to succumb CV to buy my heap of junk, it's slow and crashes randomly, and is jail broken, a total price of garbage, now I repair it enough that it should last for 4 months and then bam.
    Or any example, my example is horrible but the concept is here.
  Should the sale go south what's to go back at? Come with a rifle and blow the guys brains out?
  Or if you spent an extra $10 for a $1000 Sale guess what your covered for x amount of time for your purchase.
 Like using your CC vs paying cash, and should you have problems, should you want to return an item and the owner says no returns even though the receipt says clearly we except all unopened items within 7 days of purchase, so now what can you do if the store owner is being an ***!! where to turn to?
  Oh I should have used my amex gold card and showed the guy who's boss, by filing a return protection claim or if in fact the item is defective , your money back from amex which will pull from the store.
   So we can call it an insurance on the item or product your looking to buy, or a simple case where im buying a ticket for a Blue Jays game for tomorrow night and guess what you sell me some fake peice of paper and now what ? It's a new DDF member and never going to see that guy again, but if you used PayPal then they can be your middle guy and talk to them as they have the money or can access the money.
 Same with using myi as the middle guy, now I'll charge you 2% for the deal for my time and patience and now when the other buyer says CV sold me a great product and received it intact, I can release the funds , and pocket the 2% for my time and work involved!
   

[CountValentine]

What kind of lowlifes are you all dealing with? If I buy 100k in GC's I pay the guy 100k. If I sell 100k in GC's I expect 100k. What is so hard to understand?

[myi]

What kind of lowlifes are you all dealing with? If I buy 100k in GC's I pay the guy 100k. If I sell 100k in GC's I expect 100k. What is so hard to understand?

Yes that's the sad part there's many lowlifes out there.
  But yes if I was selling to CV I wouldn't need the extra step and do business like a man $1 for $1 and $1.3B for $1.3B.

[CountValentine]

Yes that's the sad part there's many lowlifes out there.
  But yes if I was selling to CV I wouldn't need the extra step and do business like a man $1 for $1 and $1.3B for $1.3B.

True story. Sold 100 GC on a WA group. The guy wanted a reference. 

[myi]

True story. Sold 100 GC on a WA group. The guy wanted a reference. 

Did you tell him who you are?

[12HRS]

True story. Sold 100 GC on a WA group. The guy wanted a reference. 

I don't blame him, you have a CHI area code.

[myi]

I don't blame him, you have a CHI area code.

I thought he's from Poland? I'm confused!?!

[CountValentine]

Did you tell him who you are?

That's why he wanted the reference.

[CountValentine]

I thought he's from Poland? I'm confused!?!

Then it is working. 

[CountValentine]

I don't blame him, you have a CHI area code.

I would be embarrassed to ask for a reference on $100.

[12HRS]

I would be embarrassed to ask for a reference on $100.

In fairness you don't know the guys financial situation and what losing $100 could do to him.