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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2019, 02:35:32 AM »
"בהשתתפות רבנים וראשי ישיבות" - anyone knows who that is?

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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2019, 04:49:08 AM »
Just wait till they blame it on Shlomo Carlbach having a Kumzitz in the 1950s and "see how he turned out":  :P

https://youtu.be/nt6--qk-zxI

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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2019, 05:38:27 AM »
Who was behind the protests ?

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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2019, 07:38:08 AM »
Who was behind the protests ?
Bochorim that wanted to go to the event?

BTW, it looks like to me that it was nice and peaceful.
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2019, 07:43:02 AM »
what really frustrates me is the predictable outcry, with some of the public attacking and blaming Yeshiva Bachurim. These are the same people that make noise about bachurim on purim, and every other opportunity as well. IMO these people are bigots . Bigoted against one of, if not the most, kadosh demographics in the world today. I don't need to rehash all the difficulties and restrictions that come along with being a bachur. Not that bachurim are resentful for it. But the reality is the reality. And the people criticizing are either ignorant (probably most) or just plain resentful bitter people.

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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2019, 08:08:39 AM »
what really frustrates me is the predictable outcry, with some of the public attacking and blaming Yeshiva Bachurim. These are the same people that make noise about bachurim on purim, and every other opportunity as well. IMO these people are bigots . Bigoted against one of, if not the most, kadosh demographics in the world today. I don't need to rehash all the difficulties and restrictions that come along with being a bachur. Not that bachurim are resentful for it. But the reality is the reality. And the people criticizing are either ignorant (probably most) or just plain resentful bitter people.
Actually, from what I've seen, those people are the ones bashing those who cancelled the event.

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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2019, 08:29:44 AM »
Just to point out, an event with Isaac Honig is the most kosher event you will ever get and there couldn't have been worries that it would turn into something "non kosher".

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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2019, 09:16:20 AM »
Lakewood is a pickle, the protest last night was the krach.
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2019, 09:22:13 AM »
Lakewood is a pickle, the protest last night was the krach.
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2019, 10:58:43 AM »
TYW removed the page? Sounds suspicious   :-X

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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2019, 11:15:41 AM »
All they (Travis) really needed to do , was to attach it to a Tzedaka Organization
Seems to be that anytime someone wants to break boundaries in Lakewood, they just co-op an organization and then anything goes (starting with the CEO's 9 days siyum event)

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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2019, 11:16:41 AM »
This abuse of power has gotten out of hand, until now it was mostly not publicized, but now they have the gall to do so so publicly. I've never been so ashamed of Lakewood before.
Lakewood is in total free fall .
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2019, 12:40:11 PM »
I know absolutely nothing about what this event was supposed to be, but something was missing on the planning side if the reactions of local rabbonim and menahalim weren't considered early in the planning stages.
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2019, 12:43:16 PM »
I know absolutely nothing about what this event was supposed to be, but something was missing on the planning side if the reactions of local rabbonim and menahalim weren't considered early in the planning stages.
They were all considered, the organizer knows how they run, and planned it in a way he was confident they would approve, which they did until....
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2019, 01:06:01 PM »
They were all considered, the organizer knows how they run, and planned it in a way he was confident they would approve, which they did until....
I am confused. Was it that he was confident they would approve or that they actually did? Either he didn't dot his i's and cross his t's or he isn't as familiar with how they run as you think. What is the source that they had approved?
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2019, 01:13:41 PM »
I am confused. Was it that he was confident they would approve or that they actually did? Either he didn't dot his i's and cross his t's or he isn't as familiar with how they run as you think. What is the source that they had approved?
There were no complaints until the day of. He got it all right, it was just a new "up and coming" guy trying to make a name by putting himself where he doesn't belong that made problems.
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2019, 01:17:10 PM »
There were no complaints until the day of. He got it all right, it was just a new "up and coming" guy trying to make a name by putting himself where he doesn't belong that made problems.
right, and therefore? Who had approved and what is the source?
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2019, 01:21:03 PM »
right, and therefore? Who had approved and what is the source?
No one said it was approved before. Just it was done in a way that such problems shouldn't arise, and I'm sure many people who start these problems typically looked past it, because of the way it was done
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2019, 01:24:06 PM »
No one said it was approved before.
they would approve, which they did until....

????
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2019, 01:25:46 PM »
No one said it was approved before. Just it was done in a way that such problems shouldn't arise, and I'm sure many people who start these problems typically looked past it, because of the way it was done
Ahhh so it was based on assuming they would approve without actually discussing it first. Also known as lack of planning.
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