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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #105 on: April 15, 2019, 11:04:31 PM »
I don't understand what they possibly could have told R' Shmuel to get him to sign that unless they straight out lied to him.
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #106 on: April 15, 2019, 11:06:07 PM »
why there?
Is that where another one of the kanoyim live?
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #107 on: April 15, 2019, 11:07:51 PM »
I don't understand what they possibly could have told R' Shmuel to get him to sign that unless they straight out lied to him.
They probably did.
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Who?
Here is the Kol Koreh. I know that at least one of the yeshivos that were signatory felt that it was wrong to prevent the event from taking place but ended up signing nonetheless.
Why? Aren't the Rabonnim in charge?

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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #108 on: April 15, 2019, 11:12:07 PM »
Rabbonim also have peer pressure.

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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #109 on: April 15, 2019, 11:46:46 PM »
Round 2 going on on Park Ave now. Sigh.

IYH there should be another protest every single night until the underlying issue is properly addressed and another even larger kumzitz takes its place.
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #110 on: April 15, 2019, 11:49:51 PM »
IYH there should be another protest every single night until the underlying issue is properly addressed and another even larger kumzitz takes its place.
The underlying cultural problem has to do with the idea that we need rabanim's "signatures" in order to figure out how to run our lives.
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #111 on: April 15, 2019, 11:59:50 PM »
The underlying cultural problem has to do with the idea that we need rabanim's "signatures" in order to figure out how to run our lives.

Agree, especially whenís thereís plenty of Rabbonim that were consulted from beforehand.
But the good part is that all holier-than-though askonim are on notice, people arenít gonna take their crap anymore. They canít hide behind signatures when 1000 bochurim will show up at their door.
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #112 on: April 16, 2019, 12:00:55 AM »
They canít hide behind signatures when 1000 bochurim will show up at their door.
Lol, it's kinda scary but I'm not sure it's a bad thing.
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #113 on: April 16, 2019, 12:02:03 AM »
Anything going on? Other than two short clips on matzav.com no coverage whatsoever in contrast to last nights minute by minute...

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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #114 on: April 16, 2019, 12:02:59 AM »
I'm most concerned about what this is doi ng to the kids. This is not the upbringing they deserve, or the environment the need. There is no way is good for a young innocent kids brain.
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #115 on: April 16, 2019, 12:05:19 AM »
Anything going on? Other than two short clips on matzav.com no coverage whatsoever in contrast to last nights minute by minute...
The entire area is inaccessible, kids are awake for blocks, and his home and cars are being egged.
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #116 on: April 16, 2019, 12:05:43 AM »
Anything going on? Other than two short clips on matzav.com no coverage whatsoever in contrast to last nights minute by minute...
I'm  other sure if you noticed but the ywn article is gone...

Lnn and kol haolam WhatsApp status are going strong..

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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #117 on: April 16, 2019, 12:07:58 AM »
I'm most concerned about what this is doi ng to the kids. This is not the upbringing they deserve, or the environment the need. There is no way is good for a young innocent kids brain.

That is the irony of the protests, it might not be good for them but their alternatives arenít any better.
But at least theyíre fighting for a better future for thousands of others, and they will accomplish it.
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #118 on: April 16, 2019, 12:09:02 AM »
Here is the Kol Koreh. I know that at least one of the yeshivos that were signatory felt that it was wrong to prevent the event from taking place but ended up signing nonetheless.

I just noticed the pasuk they used in the date, and I'm having a hard time not coming to the conclusion that this is an elaborate troll...

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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
« Reply #119 on: April 16, 2019, 12:12:08 AM »
I'm  other sure if you noticed but the ywn article is gone...

Lnn and kol haolam WhatsApp status are going strong..
Isnít LNN run by the guy that organized the kumzitz?