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Re: serious question: chol hamoed & measles
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2019, 01:09:39 PM »
so if all of Rockland county is vaccinated, at 97% effectiveness, with a population of 311,000 at 3% equals 9330, and we only have 186 confirmed cases.

""Rockland county is currently dealing with 186 confirmed measles cases. New York City has had 329 cases since October. In just the last two weeks, Westchester has confirmed ten cases."""

Looks to me that we are doing wonderful, why all the noise??????????

Disclosure: I had measles in the 70's, my whole class did, 1 of my classmates passed away a few years ago due to a heart attack
Why are you pushing intentionally misleading information? In order for everyone to be protected (including those who are unable to get vaccinated and the 3% who are not immune even after being vaccinated) you need herd immunity which is achieved when the odds of passing on a virus are lower than the odds of contacting someone who is susceptible If 1 in 20 people are not immune, and the average person only comes in contact with 19 people then an outbreak is impossible. If 1 in 10 is susceptible, that means that every infected person will pass it on to 2 people (on average) and that leaves you with an outbreak. In short the selfish people who refuse to vaccinate are putting those who can't vaccinate (infants and those with compromised immune systems) in grave danger.
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Re: serious question: chol hamoed & measles
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2019, 02:06:59 PM »
But apparently there are some unreported that CBC mentioned. I wanted to know about those
Unvaxxed teen who spent time in the ICU.

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Re: serious question: chol hamoed & measles
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2019, 03:36:25 PM »
so if all of Rockland county is vaccinated, at 97% effectiveness, with a population of 311,000 at 3% equals 9330, and we only have 186 confirmed cases.

""Rockland county is currently dealing with 186 confirmed measles cases. New York City has had 329 cases since October. In just the last two weeks, Westchester has confirmed ten cases."""

Looks to me that we are doing wonderful, why all the noise??????????

Lack of immunity + exposure = measles (at least in 90% of cases)

Most people get immunity from the vaccine. However for people for whom that isn't possible (either because they are young, sick or from the 3% you referenced) the only way to protect them is by making sure they don't come in contact with the measles. If only 3% can potentially get measles, the chances of them being exposed to one of those who have it is very small, and the disease doesn't spread.

Disclosure: I had measles in the 70's, my whole class did, 1 of my classmates passed away a few years ago due to a heart attack

Your anecdotal evidence, with a sample size of 20, tells us a lot less than the millions of people that scientists have studied.

But you know all of this...


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Re: serious question: chol hamoed & measles
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2019, 04:18:11 PM »
My bigger fear - that someone in the airport will see my Yarmulka and try to get me and my family kicked off the plane

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Re: serious question: chol hamoed & measles
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2019, 04:35:00 PM »
My bigger fear - that someone in the airport will see my Yarmulka and try to get me and my family kicked off the plane
You can bring a doctor ‘s note that your family is vaccinated.
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Re: serious question: chol hamoed & measles
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2019, 04:39:14 PM »
My bigger fear - that someone in the airport will see my Yarmulka and try to get me and my family kicked off the plane
You'd make a fortune.
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Re: serious question: chol hamoed & measles
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2019, 05:11:21 PM »


Great example of how NOT to interpret data.

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Re: serious question: chol hamoed & measles
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2019, 05:16:36 PM »
You'd make a fortune.

I'd need it - in order to make last minute pesach prep if I can't get to my destination :)

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Re: serious question: chol hamoed & measles
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2019, 05:17:39 PM »
You can bring a doctor ‘s note that your family is vaccinated.

Better - yet, I will ask the flight crew to show me theirs, and those of everyone on the plane.

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Re: serious question: chol hamoed & measles
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2019, 07:38:01 AM »
Great example of how NOT to interpret data.
Please explain.
https://t.co/7JiR9UEd33?amp=1