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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2019, 09:36:02 PM »
Just awful. BD"E.
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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2019, 09:36:29 PM »
Aweful. BDE

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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2019, 10:27:57 PM »
What a hero. So sad.
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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2019, 10:42:03 AM »
Rabbi Yisroel Goldstein, a victim of the synagogue shooting in Poway, California, joins Sunday TODAY’s Willie Geist exclusively to talk about the injuries he suffered and Lori Kaye, the woman who was killed. “Terror will not win,” he says

https://www.today.com/video/rabbi-injured-during-poway-synagogue-shooting-i-m-heartbroken-1510946883942
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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2019, 10:45:42 AM »
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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2019, 11:18:11 AM »

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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2019, 11:34:41 AM »
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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2019, 11:40:15 AM »
Is it time for Jewish institutions to seriously consider placing armed guards with entry requirements? Such as in many Jewish synagogues worldwide.

Is it time for government to allow the people to arm themselves to protect their own public institutions?

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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2019, 11:52:05 AM »
Sick. Ignorant.

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He should watch https://www.netflix.com/title/80108614

As well as https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORp3q1Oaezw

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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2019, 12:40:16 PM »
He should watch https://www.netflix.com/title/80108614

As well as https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORp3q1Oaezw

Over and over while awaiting his arraignment, and subsequently his trial.
Ignorance is not the problem. No where near.

Were the Nazis ignorant? Nah. That's not why he hates Jews.

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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2019, 01:07:43 PM »
Ignorance is not the problem. No where near.

Were the Nazis ignorant? Nah. That's not why he hates Jews.
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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2019, 01:16:53 PM »
Ignorance is not the problem. No where near.

Were the Nazis ignorant? Nah. That's not why he hates Jews.

הלכה בידוע שעשו שונא ליעקב.

However, the Nazis, as well as the Crusaders before them, took advantage of ignorance, and with populistic messages made the Jews the scapegoats for problems that had nothing whatsoever to do with the Jews.

For crying out loud, this idiot is citing Simon of Trent. He actually believes that there's truth to blood libels!!!
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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2019, 02:16:05 PM »
הלכה בידוע שעשו שונא ליעקב.

However, the Nazis, as well as the Crusaders before them, took advantage of ignorance, and with populistic messages made the Jews the scapegoats for problems that had nothing whatsoever to do with the Jews.

For crying out loud, this idiot is citing Simon of Trent. He actually believes that there's truth to blood libels!!!
Nah he doesn't. I think using the term ignorance here makes this sound like a big misunderstanding...

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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2019, 02:48:07 PM »
Nah he doesn't. I think using the term ignorance here makes this sound like a big misunderstanding...

Where do you take that from? His references to Simon of Trent seem to indicate that he actually believes the blood libel was true.

And as far as ignorance breeding hate. It's not the REASON for it, as I have quoted above "הלכה בידוע שעשו שונא ליעקב", but it definitely serves as a fertile breeding ground for hate.
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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2019, 03:19:30 PM »
Where do you take that from? His references to Simon of Trent seem to indicate that he actually believes the blood libel was true.

And as far as ignorance breeding hate. It's not the REASON for it, as I have quoted above "הלכה בידוע שעשו שונא ליעקב", but it definitely serves as a fertile breeding ground for hate.
He appears to be well educated, articulate and smart.
He may "believe" in blood libels, but only because they allow/rationalize him to kill the Jew.

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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2019, 04:05:37 PM »
He appears to be well educated, articulate and smart.
This is the scariest part imo.

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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2019, 04:07:43 PM »
He appears to be well educated, articulate and smart.
He may "believe" in blood libels, but only because they allow/rationalize him to kill the Jew.

You could have said that about anyone of his heroes. Being "well educated, articulate (does resorting to the kind of language he uses make him articulate? E.G.) and smart" doesn't negate the fact that he's ignorant. His hate allows him to accept his ignorance because the second he will become knowledgable and apply some analytical intelligent thinking to the facts that he might learn, he will be faced with cognitive dissonance (assuming that he is indeed intelligent) that will force him to abandon his hate. He's a 19 year old "invincible" and not interested in the facts or in reasonable analysis and critical thinking.

Go back to the TED talk by Daryl Davis and see what some education and intellectual analysis can do to the greatest bigots and haters.
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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2019, 05:30:12 PM »
And here is a perfect example of who are those that are promoting the sick ideas that this idiot esposes. Attention @ChaimMoskowitz, it isn't Trump, it's the NYT and their ilk.
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Re: Poway synagogue shooting.
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2019, 06:10:27 PM »
It starts with the NYT and ends with..
But its easy for the NYT to slam POTUS every day on Anti Semitism claims.
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