Author Topic: Lose Your Hechsher In Lakewood If You Fly An Israeli Flag?  (Read 10112 times)

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Anyone know if this is true that the KCL told SSSS to take down their Israeli flag?
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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2019, 04:06:52 PM »
Anyone know if this is true that the KCL told SSSS to take down their Israeli flag?

I heard Gaza is looking for new members. Seems Lakewood has fallen to the deepest drek of yidishkeit

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2019, 04:14:06 PM »
Anyone know if this is true that the KCL told SSSS to take down their Israeli flag?
FWIW his Son In Law posted the link to the FB article from Kosher Guru on a group
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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2019, 04:15:08 PM »
Anyone know if this is true that the KCL told SSSS to take down their Israeli flag?
Craziness!
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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2019, 04:23:18 PM »
I heard Gaza is looking for new members. Seems Lakewood has fallen to the deepest drek of yidishkeit
Thats a little aggressive.
Craziness!
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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2019, 04:32:42 PM »
Anyone know if this is true that the KCL told SSSS to take down their Israeli flag?
Reportedly #FakeNews.

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2019, 04:36:18 PM »

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2019, 04:59:41 PM »
GreaterLakewood.com confirmed it is true now...
https://greaterlakewood.com/southside-sandwich-shop-hangs-isrseli-flag-kcl-threatens-to-pull-hechsher/


You've got to be flipping kidding me. The next time someone asks me why Moshiach isn't here - I'll print them this article.
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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2019, 05:09:08 PM »
http://matzav.com/exclusive-the-inside-story-behind-the-request-to-remove-israeli-flag-from-ssss-in-lakewood/
Why is an area of bnei Torah a contradiction to the flag ? Is Ponovezh yeshiva not an area of bnei Torah ?

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2019, 05:09:53 PM »
Why is an area of bnei Torah a contradiction to the flag ? Is Ponovezh yeshiva not an area of bnei Torah ?
Why don't you call the KCL and ask them?

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2019, 05:10:50 PM »
Why don't you call the KCL and ask them?
Who’s KCL & who's pressuring them ?

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2019, 05:19:40 PM »
Who’s KCL & who's pressuring them ?
Name: Kashrus Council of Lakewood, NJ
Phone Number: (732) 901-1888
Fax: (732) 901-1833
750 Forest Ave. #66, Lakewood, NJ 08701
Rabbinic Administrator: Rabbi Avrohom Moshe Weisner

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2019, 05:25:53 PM »
Don’t know if the story is true or not but it’s a great way to sell sandwiches!

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2019, 06:10:58 PM »
Why is an area of bnei Torah a contradiction to the flag ? Is Ponovezh yeshiva not an area of bnei Torah ?
from the Rav Avigor Miller daily email
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Rav Avigdor Miller on Celebrating Yom Ha’atzmaus
Q:
Would a person be allowed to celebrate the fifth of Iyar (Israeli Independence Day), the same way he celebrates the Fourth of July?

A:
The answer is that the Fourth of July has no Jewish connotation; it’s a neutral thing. And since it’s a demonstration of loyalty to the county where you live, so it certainly is virtuous to hang out a flag on the Fourth of July. I think that all Jews should be interested in demonstrating solidarity with the American people. And especially to thank Hakodosh Boruch Hu that there is such a country that fosters such ideals of liberty which Jews enjoy today.

The fifth of Iyar is a different story entirely. The Medinas Yisroel was founded by atheists. Of course, there was a small handful of ma’aminim also. But the vast majority were atheists, and they were extreme left wing radicals. Even today, the first of May is a big day in the State of Israel - because it was all Marxism.

So how can we demonstrate any kind of sympathy with a State that is diametrically opposed to the Torah?! The mere fact that they draft girls into the army is such a horrendous contradiction to Jewish tradition, to Jewish attitudes, that for that alone, every conscientious Jew should feel a tremendous hostility to the State of Israel.

It’s no exaggeration to say that we ought to organize brigades and invade the State of Israel! Now as queer as that will sound to you, that’s the truth. Now, of course we can’t do it because there are so many frum Jews who have to be protected today - and that’s our big worry! But the chillul Hashem of drafting girls into the army is unequaled - even among the nations of the world.
May you slide down the banister of happiness & get many splinters of success up your career.

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2019, 06:38:28 PM »
Anyone know if this is true that the KCL told SSSS to take down their Israeli flag?
All you guys giving heat, Do you relize the flag was hung in honor of Israeli independents day?

That's basically agreeing with Zionist Ideology (maybe unintentionally) which you may or  may not agree with,
But I'm sure u'll agree that it is not crazy to hold against.

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2019, 06:43:27 PM »
All you guys giving heat, Do you relize the flag was hung in honor of Israeli independents day?

That's basically agreeing with Zionist Ideology (maybe unintentionally) which you may or  may not agree with,
But I'm sure u'll agree that it is not crazy to hold against.
It’s the age old question about kashrus agencies:
Are they overstepping their bounds by having policies regarding WiFi, how late you can be open, what you can call items on your menu, can you explicitly say Treif words like “Super Bowl Special”....

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2019, 06:45:40 PM »
It’s the age old question about kashrus agencies:
Are they overstepping their bounds by having policies regarding WiFi, how late you can be open, what you can call items on your menu, can you explicitly say Treif words like “Super Bowl Special”....
That I agree with. kashrus agencies should only be concerned with kashrus issues, this is where it starts and ends.

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2019, 06:45:50 PM »
All you guys giving heat, Do you relize the flag was hung in honor of Israeli independents day?

That's basically agreeing with Zionist Ideology (maybe unintentionally) which you may or  may not agree with,
But I'm sure u'll agree that it is not crazy to hold against.
To remove a hechsher ? It’s crazy