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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2019, 02:48:55 AM »
I would mail it to the address and just consider the $3 in postage as a donation to our postal system.
thats what i will do just wasnt sure if there are other options out there,
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2019, 02:50:49 AM »
True in the sense that Its probably a goy's so you shouldn't return it unless it will make a kiddush hashem.
i tried the person thru social Media but no luck there 
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2019, 02:55:32 AM »
i tried the person thru social Media but no luck there
Google images with the passport image?
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2019, 03:23:51 AM »
Google images with the passport image?
FB,IG,twitter,tried searching the name and see if there are any accounts matching
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2019, 03:47:50 AM »
FB,IG,twitter,tried searching the name and see if there are any accounts matching
Unless amazon would be willing to share who bought that with the name x and x and explain the story behind it.
 If a rep doesn't work then a supervisor.
 Don't kill yourself over it. There's no chiyav hashava as there's no kiddush hashem in the case, unless u track down the owner and he knows it's coming from a frum person.
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2019, 03:59:49 AM »
Unless amazon would be willing to share who bought that with the name x and x and explain the story behind it.
 If a rep doesn't work then a supervisor.
 Don't kill yourself over it. There's no chiyav hashava as there's no kiddush hashem in the case, unless u track down the owner and he knows it's coming from a frum person.
Right, and i highly doubt Amazon will give out any info but ill try my luck thanks for all the help guys
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2019, 06:17:01 AM »
The guy probably long ago replaced his lost passport and had this one cancelled.

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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2019, 06:27:33 AM »
The guy probably long ago replaced his lost passport and had this one cancelled.

Not necessarily. Some people rarely use their passports.

Given the info posted here, I would just drop it as is into USPS mailbox and move on.
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2019, 06:44:44 AM »
FB,IG,twitter,tried searching the name and see if there are any accounts matching

What made you think of FlyingBlue or Air Italy of all other places out there?
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2019, 06:47:16 AM »
What made you think of FlyingBlue or Air Italy of all other places out there?
Not sure if its a sarcastic q. Prob depends how old u are
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2019, 06:54:34 AM »
What made you think of FlyingBlue or Air Italy of all other places out there?
And also where does Twitter come in? AFAIK Twitter is a platform to request KSMLs, seat changes and complain to hotels.
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2019, 07:16:53 AM »
Would that apply to something like a passport that has $0 value to anyone but its owner?
the passport is owned by the US government. you should mail it to the state department

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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2019, 07:30:02 AM »
Not sure if its a sarcastic q. Prob depends how old u are

I guess I'm just a drop older than @davidrotts63, since I failed to ask the obvious question about Twitter.  ;D
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2019, 07:42:44 AM »
the passport is owned by the US government. you should mail it to the state department
And the government is owned by "We the People", so just keep it.
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2019, 09:14:43 AM »
And the government is owned by "We the People", so just keep it.
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2019, 10:14:51 PM »
If I am not mistaken according to Rashi it is Assur to do Hashavas Aveida to someone who isn't רעיך.

ETA: "והמחזיר אבידה לנכרי – עליו הכתוב אומר: 'למען ספות הרוה את הצמאה לא יאבה ה' סלח לו'" (סנהדרין עו ע"ב). ופירש"י: "השווה וחבר נכרי לישראל, ומראה בעצמו שהשבת אבדה אינה חשובה לו מצות בוראו, שאף לנכרי הוא עושה כן שלא נצטווה עליהם".

וכך פסק השולחן ערוך: "אבדת העובד כוכבים מותרת, שנאמר 'אבידת אחיך' (דברים כב, ג). והמחזירה, הרי זה עובר עבירה, מפני שהוא מחזיק ידי עוברי עבירה" (שולחן ערוך, חושן משפט, סימן רסו, סעיף א).
At this point this is probably the halacha, and should not be returned as it doesn't look like any kiddush hashem is coming out of this, unless those following the forum counts as a K"H?
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2019, 10:32:18 PM »
At this point this is probably the halacha, and should not be returned as it doesn't look like any kiddush hashem is coming out of this, unless those following the forum counts as a K"H?
If it has no monetary value, does it have a din of an אבידה that should not be returned?
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2019, 11:48:15 PM »
If it has no monetary value, does it have a din of an אבידה that should not be returned?
Basically if it is only worth money to the owner it is pashtus worth money.
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2019, 12:43:17 AM »
Basically if it is only worth money to the owner it is pashtus worth money.
Source?

Is it worth money to the owner? Can the owner trade it for ANYTHING?

@aygart any insight? After all we are following the instructions of your signature line.
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Re: Found A Lost Passport What Do I Do?
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2019, 01:24:56 AM »
Source?

Is it worth money to the owner? Can the owner trade it for ANYTHING?

@aygart any insight? After all we are following the instructions of your signature line.
Sure it's worth money to the owner, with a passport that allows him to travel across country, while without he would be bound to stay put, and would need to spend another x amount of dollars to replace the old passport.
 
 And in regards to trading it...
Well that depends if he has some good stamps on it.

 Will see if I can find a mar'eh mokom.
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