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Re: Mediterranean diet
« Reply #90 on: June 12, 2019, 09:02:12 AM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/better/amp/ncna1011051
Many Mediterranean diets mention the fact that it's a way of life which includes heavy socializing. Notice that they don't toss their elderly into old age homes where they wither away in a lonely life. They keep them in their homes where they are active participants of the family.

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Re: Mediterranean diet
« Reply #91 on: June 12, 2019, 12:00:13 PM »
Many Mediterranean diets mention the fact that it's a way of life which includes heavy socializing. Notice that they don't toss their elderly into old age homes where they wither away in a lonely life. They keep them in their homes where they are active participants of the family.

Yep, keh looking at my bubby of 94, active and spry

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Re: Mediterranean diet
« Reply #92 on: June 12, 2019, 12:04:09 PM »
What makes you think I missed it? After everything is said about the diet, he says that he only attributes 25% of the secret of their longevity to it. Not that I think there's anything scientific to it, but since you were the one bringing the article in the context of extolling the merits of the Mediterranean diet, I thought the quote is worthy of pointing out.

But after all, you seem to insist on go[ing] down this rabbit hole that diet is everything," while "its really a small part of the big picture.

And that's why I posted it, precisely because it disagrees.

But looking into the small things and one picks stuff out. I'd bet their homemade pasta is incredibly healthy.

Likewise I don't think too much meat is healthy, just pointing out as I have before that processed meat's were the bad child.

I agree that food isn't everything. It's a balance.

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Re: Mediterranean diet
« Reply #94 on: June 13, 2019, 02:59:09 AM »
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/06/12/732061499/the-swap-less-processed-meat-more-plant-based-foods-may-boost-longevity

The key word being May which might indicate that this is a theory, not proven science.

That being said, I doubt anyone is extolling the health benefits of Hot Dogs, and almost everyone agrees that nuts and seeds are healthy. It's just that there's so much more that goes into the longevity equation.
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Re: Mediterranean diet
« Reply #95 on: June 13, 2019, 01:07:27 PM »


I was in Sardegna a few weeks ago.  I asked the driver in Alghero, what's the secret of longevity in Sardegna,
and how come they're content with whatever they have.  He told me, its because of the light.  From the morning,
till ten o'clock in the evening, there's a light shining out in the sky.  It is magnificent over there.

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Re: Mediterranean diet
« Reply #96 on: June 13, 2019, 01:21:47 PM »
I was in Sardegna a few weeks ago.  I asked the driver in Alghero, what's the secret of longevity in Sardegna,
and how come they're content with whatever they have.  He told me, its because of the light.  From the morning,
till ten o'clock in the evening, there's a light shining out in the sky.  It is magnificent over there.
Hopefully this goes with out saying, but that's nonsense. Sardinia doesn't get an exceptionally high amount of sunshine. If sunshine were an indicator was the biggest contributor, Sardinia would be far behind Arizona, Egypt - even Israel.
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Re: Mediterranean diet
« Reply #97 on: June 13, 2019, 01:34:00 PM »
I was in Sardegna a few weeks ago.  I asked the driver in Alghero, what's the secret of longevity in Sardegna,
and how come they're content with whatever they have.  He told me, its because of the light.  From the morning,
till ten o'clock in the evening, there's a light shining out in the sky.  It is magnificent over there.

Always get the most accurate, proven, scientific, information from your drivers.  ;D

That being said, sunlight exposure probably has health benefits. But I would argue (with no scientific proof or evidence) that the fact that "they're content with whatever they have" is a strong contributor to "longevity in Sardegna" or elsewhere. Attitude and mental health are huge!
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Re: Mediterranean diet
« Reply #98 on: June 13, 2019, 01:34:12 PM »
But if you Google the five blue zones you'll see that all them are on beautiful Waterfront areas

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Re: Mediterranean diet
« Reply #99 on: June 13, 2019, 01:36:26 PM »
I'm curious about stuff like pollution, water quality etc..

also again you could eat the same foods but which has chemicals etc or nutrients

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Re: Mediterranean diet
« Reply #100 on: June 13, 2019, 01:59:41 PM »
But if you Google the five blue zones you'll see that all them are on beautiful Waterfront areas
That's a separate question from the sunlight thing. Does Buettner talk about that?

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Re: Mediterranean diet
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Re: Mediterranean diet
« Reply #102 on: June 13, 2019, 02:09:18 PM »
I'm curious about stuff like pollution, water quality etc..

also again you could eat the same foods but which has chemicals etc or nutrients

Stop worrying and start living.
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Re: Mediterranean diet
« Reply #103 on: June 13, 2019, 02:13:58 PM »
Sunlight is mentioned here


https://www.bluezones.com/exploration/okinawa-japan/
I was asking whether he talks about being near water.

I think the benefits of sunlight are probably among the most researched/documented of the factors discussed (for overall health, if not longevity), but it's not a very good indicator of why the blue zones are special. They're not particularly remarkable in their levels of annual sunshine. Obviously it's meant to be just one of several factors, but that makes the benefits of each one more vague.

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Re: Mediterranean diet
« Reply #104 on: June 13, 2019, 02:18:27 PM »
I was asking whether he talks about being near water.

I think the benefits of sunlight are probably among the most researched/documented of the factors discussed (for overall health, if not longevity), but it's not a very good indicator of why the blue zones are special. They're not particularly remarkable in their levels of annual sunshine. Obviously it's meant to be just one of several factors, but that makes the benefits of each one more vague.

I doubt whether the amount of annual sunshine is as important as how much time is spent in the sun based on lifestyle.
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