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DDF Trading Middlemen
« on: June 03, 2019, 02:40:10 AM »
I don't think such a thread exists yet for this board. This is different than the feedback thread because this enables people without a reputation to trade.

A buyer and seller want to do a trade for a physical item. Their reputations are unknown. A middleman can help in such a situation.

1 - The buyer and seller post that they're looking for a middleman.

2 - People willing to take the job respond so.

3 - The buyer and seller choose a middleman and notify them.

4 - The middleman will get the buyers money plus a fee from one/both of the parties.

5 - The seller will ship the item to the middleman.

6 - The middleman will confirm receipt of the item and pass the payment along to the seller minus his fee.

7 - The buyer will have to arrange a pickup from the middleman. (So obviously only pick a middleman who lives nearby.)



The wiki will be used to vouch for a DDFers credibility as a middleman. A vouch can only be made by making a post in the thread stating clearly who you are vouching for. Then linking your post to the wiki with your username as the link next to the username you're vouching for.


The middleman will have the same obligations as a shomer socher.

What happens if something goes wrong? I can't think of all scenarios so I'm going to need help with that.

I'm not either very familiar with QuickPay PayPal... so I guess any ideas for the best way to handle things are welcome.

what do you guys say? obviously I don't think this will work too well with digital items which it seems like is the majority of trades here.
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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2019, 02:51:10 AM »
Scenario 1: Buyer is a scammer.
After receiving the item the buyer claws back the payment.

Same scenario with a middleman: Middleman loses the money.

Should we move on to scenario 2?
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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2019, 03:05:17 AM »
Scenario 1: Buyer is a scammer.
After receiving the item the buyer claws back the payment.

Same scenario with a middleman: Middleman loses the money.

Should we move on to scenario 2?

if using a middleman why would someone use a second middleman payment service that can be clawed back?

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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2019, 03:10:47 AM »
if using a middleman why would someone use a second middleman payment service that can be clawed back?
So everything has to be wires and cash?
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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2019, 07:13:19 AM »
There aren't that many physical items sold on DDF that aren't already pickup only...
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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2019, 07:33:30 AM »
So everything has to be wires and cash?

how do you claw back a PayPal family and friends transaction?

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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2019, 07:35:17 AM »
how do you claw back a PayPal family and friends transaction?
Use a CC...
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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2019, 07:38:50 AM »
Use a CC...

You stay up all night not learning already?

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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2019, 07:40:20 AM »
You stay up all night not learning already?

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Pay F&F with a CC, and then dispute the charge.
I was trying to be vague as to not give people ideas.
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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2019, 07:43:27 AM »
Pay F&F with a CC, and then dispute the charge.
I was trying to be vague as to not give people ideas.

Someone did that to me recently and I made them undo it and switch to cash..

Still Zelle...

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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2019, 07:44:44 AM »
Someone did that to me recently and I made them undo it and switch to cash..

Still Zelle...
Better, but still not foolproof.
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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2019, 08:10:42 AM »
Pay F&F with a CC, and then dispute the charge.
I was trying to be vague as to not give people ideas.
Wow, those are tough ones....

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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2019, 03:17:09 PM »
Better, but still not foolproof.
Zelle is almost impossible to claw back
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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2019, 03:30:05 PM »
Zelle is almost impossible to claw back
How about Venmo?
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Re: DDF Trading Middlemen
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2019, 03:37:04 PM »
Why wouldn't it be sufficient for the middleman to just vouch for the newer member (provided they know them personally, or dealt with them prior) without being an escrow?
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