Author Topic: Dangerous to stopover in Istanbul? (Read 22101 times)

Dan · « **Reply #20 on:** October 03, 2011, 03:29:42 PM »

Quote from: moish on October 03, 2011, 03:24:15 PM

how about if its 0.0%

And who will guarantee that?

AJK · « **Reply #21 on:** October 03, 2011, 03:30:48 PM »

Quote from: Dan on October 03, 2011, 03:29:42 PM

And who will guarantee that?

I sell insurance for these types of things. PM me for Monday's unbeatably-low quote.

chuchem · « **Reply #22 on:** October 03, 2011, 04:42:21 PM »

Stay home, there nobody will talk to you. At every airport, if a guy in power has a bad day he can pick on you... So the 0.1 will always be there
A u.s. guy traveling to turkey is no problem.

Dan · « **Reply #23 on:** October 03, 2011, 04:57:37 PM »

Quote from: chuchem on October 03, 2011, 04:42:21 PM

Stay home, there nobody will talk to you. At every airport, if a guy in power has a bad day he can pick on you... So the 0.1 will always be there
A u.s. guy traveling to turkey is no problem.

Do you really believe that because I carry a US passport I will be guaranteed to be treated the same as a regular US traveler. With a beard, yarmulkah, tefillin and all?
There is an added risk, very small mind you, but the risk exists IMHO.

And I'm not sure why not wanting to transit IST has anything to do with traveling at all? Unless you honestly think the risk of being strip-searched is the same in CLE, LHR, ZRH, HKG, MEL, or TLV as it is in IST or JED?

chuchem · « **Reply #24 on:** October 03, 2011, 05:52:29 PM »

Dan, not everybody looks as jewish as you do! I am clean shaven and with a baseball cap not regocnized as jew that easy.

Yes, ist has a slight bigger chance, if i have to transfer anyway and can pick between ist and fra and ist is 100 dollars cheaper, i would pick ist. I will not cross the road to the other side of the street, just because on my side there is a tree and there is a bigger risk of it falling on my head if i walk on my side of the street.

You can never travel risk free... Take a boat, as a plane could crash

I was in ist and dxb and had no issues at all. Had a client, that davened in the ek lounge in dubai a few weeks ago with talis and tefilin.

SuperFlyer · « **Reply #25 on:** October 03, 2011, 05:55:30 PM »

Quote from: Dan on October 03, 2011, 04:57:37 PM

Do you really believe that because I carry a US passport I will be guaranteed to be treated the same as a regular US traveler. With a beard, yarmulkah, tefillin and all?
There is an added risk, very small mind you, but the risk exists IMHO.

And I'm not sure why not wanting to transit IST has anything to do with traveling at all? Unless you honestly think the risk of being strip-searched is the same in CLE, LHR, ZRH, HKG, MEL, or TLV as it is in IST or JED?

Before I visited you, I flew via IAH, as you advised me to see the nicest CO lounge, I had a 2.5 stop, and as I arrived in F, I was taken through passport control in some 6-7 mins.

After that I got checked and checked, for over 2 hours*, and if not for grabbing a ride in those electric cars, I would have missed my flight for sure... (forget the lounge)

*I could see the enjoyment on their face, and as a non-USA citizen, you need to shut up, or you can be banned entry easily.

Dan · « **Reply #26 on:** October 03, 2011, 05:57:47 PM »

Quote from: chuchem on October 03, 2011, 05:52:29 PM

Dan, not everybody looks as jewish as you do! I am clean shaven and with a baseball cap not regocnized as jew that easy.

Of course, that's why I said

Quote from: Dan on October 03, 2011, 02:52:11 PM

Speaking for myself I would gladly pay a few hundred dollars rather than have even a 0.1% chance of having my family humiliated like that.

Quote from: SuperFlyer on October 03, 2011, 05:55:30 PM

Before I visited you, I flew via IAH, as you advised me to see the nicest CO lounge, I had a 2.5 stop, and as I arrived in F, I was taken through passport control in some 6-7 mins.

After that I got checked and checked, for over 2 hours*, and if not for grabbing a ride in those electric cars, I would have missed my flight for sure... (forget the lounge)

*I could see the enjoyment on their face, and as a non-USA citizen, you need to shut up, or you can be banned entry easily.

I guess you're just a suspicious looking fellow

aussiebochur · « **Reply #27 on:** October 03, 2011, 06:09:02 PM »

Quote from: chuchem on October 03, 2011, 05:52:29 PM

I was in ist and dxb and had no issues at all. Had a client, that davened in the ek lounge in dubai a few weeks ago with talis and tefilin.

I davened in the main terminal of DXB, no big deal at all. Even managed to find another yid to put on tefillin with. That took a little more convincing...

But tefillin is more positive then negative. See Devarim 28:10, Berachas 6a.

SuperFlyer · « **Reply #28 on:** October 03, 2011, 06:10:19 PM »

Quote from: Dan on October 03, 2011, 05:57:47 PM

Of course, that's why I said I guess you're just a suspicious looking fellow

Usually not, but I suppose they suspected me, "al shem ho'osid", who I was going to meet...

moish · « **Reply #29 on:** October 03, 2011, 09:46:59 PM »

super, judging from the pics at the israel DO, id say they were spot on - you are quite a dangerous fellow...

pghtown · « **Reply #30 on:** October 03, 2011, 09:59:16 PM »

Why would you reward Turkey and support its economy with your $$ when it is causing such tzuris for Israel?

Dan · « **Reply #31 on:** October 03, 2011, 10:09:35 PM »

Quote from: pghtown on October 03, 2011, 09:59:16 PM

Why would you reward Turkey and support its economy with your $$ when it is causing such tzuris for Israel?

Yup, that's part of my point.

mercaz1 · « **Reply #32 on:** October 04, 2011, 10:11:44 AM »

if its cheaper then that maybe the only way he can afford to fly

coolfaye · « **Reply #33 on:** October 04, 2011, 03:16:58 PM »

a woman alone in Istanbul?? i dont think so.... a friend of mine was accosted a few times (not just once!) in Istanbul.

AJK · « **Reply #34 on:** October 04, 2011, 03:36:04 PM »

Quote from: coolfaye on October 04, 2011, 03:16:58 PM

a woman alone in Istanbul?? i dont think so.... a friend of mine was accosted a few times (not just once!) in Istanbul.

Accosted in the airport? Multiple times? Not saying it didn't happen, but I find that incredulous.

moe · « **Reply #35 on:** October 04, 2011, 05:09:32 PM »

I was there once with a 5 stop over. Even went out a little to tour. No problems at all. Nice city btw.

sky121 · « **Reply #36 on:** October 04, 2011, 09:38:53 PM »

Quote from: moe on October 04, 2011, 05:09:32 PM

I was there once with a 5 stop over. Even went out a little to tour. No problems at all. Nice city btw.

You could have a good experience. Or you could have an awful one. I wouldn't take the chance.

mendoul · « **Reply #37 on:** October 10, 2011, 08:58:00 AM »

no problem i was there last week

scrollup · « **Reply #38 on:** November 08, 2011, 03:38:54 PM »

Looking for a deal from Dec. 25 till Jan 1 JFK-TLV (can't fly earlier, can't return later) and the cheapest I found was through Turkey $1025. Should I be concerned about security and safety? or do I have nothing to worry about?

Or can someone find a similar priced deal (-/+ $100) within a decent total trip duration through another route?

Thank You!

sky121 · « **Reply #39 on:** November 08, 2011, 03:40:35 PM »

Quote from: scrollup on November 08, 2011, 03:38:54 PM

Looking for a deal from Dec. 25 till Jan 1 JFK-TLV (can't fly earlier, can't return later) and the cheapest I found was through Turkey $1025. Should I be concerned about security and safety? or do I have nothing to worry about?

Or can someone find a similar priced deal (-/+ $100) within a decent total trip duration through another route?

Thank You!

People will tell you that they've flown through there and it's fine and it very well can be but personally I wouldn't take the risk at this point.