Qantas FF changes imminent?

[Dan]

That's easy. To make them even more profitable.
Eventually though that may hurt them. TBD

[KSMH]

If DL/AA/UA's FF programs are so profitable, why do they feel the need to devalue their programs twice annually?
(Maybe QF's program is so profitable because it's very lucrative and attractive. Like managing to get a few thousand redemptions with LY just since the merger.)

It's like going to a grocery for the sale of 1 item and end up buying many more, only to find out at check out that the sale on that 1 item is over. The store still had you checkout and pay for it.

 Some time later Bingo moves in to town and the sales get real.  The Bingo part did not happen yet, but with any downturn in the economy or more competition it can and yes there are always savvy costumers but sadly not to many.

There are many ppl that sadly pay United 180K for a UA everyday award for TLV route not realizing that spending on a CITI or CO double cash can get them a better mile/point per cent value.

[davidrotts63]

Looking good.
5 new partners;
KL
AF
PG (Bangkok Airways)
CI
NZ
Rumored lower YQ and more availability on long haul flights.

[moe8555]

Looking good.
5 new partners;
KL
AF
PG (Bangkok Airways)
CI
NZ
Rumored lower YQ and more availability on long haul flights.

Cool, source?  So we can redeem on AF and KLM now?  No complaints here about that...

Also, regarding YQ, take a look at YQ on British with QF points.  Is it just me or has it already been lowered?

[davidrotts63]

Cool, source?  So we can redeem on AF and KLM now?  No complaints here about that...

Also, regarding YQ, take a look at YQ on British with QF points.  Is it just me or has it already been lowered?

Changes are already being rolled out, so it makes sense. Although my understanding was that this was about QF metal.

[yelped]

Looking good.
5 new partners;
KL
AF
PG (Bangkok Airways)
CI
NZ
Rumored lower YQ and more availability on long haul flights.

This usually goes along with higher rates, dynamic redemptions, and revenue based earning.

[davidrotts63]

This usually goes along with higher rates, dynamic redemptions, and revenue based earning.

The revenue based redemptions seem to be rolling out with no changes to Classic (Saver) redemptions.

[yelped]

You do realize that "increased availability" probably just means for the revenue based redemptions.

[leaf]

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-promises-more-seats-for-frequent-flyers

[MosheD]

https://onemileatatime.com/qantas-frequent-flyer-changes/

Waiting for the DDMS article

[MosheD]

Changes are already being rolled out, so it makes sense. Although my understanding was that this was about QF metal.

I thought so too, but cant find a source. Do you have any?
All the articles are very vague

[leaf]

What's the bottom line for redemptions on LY?

[MosheD]

Noone seems to have a clear answer and my guess is thats what is holding up Dans post.
He will post when he has clear answers

[davidrotts63]

I thought so too, but cant find a source. Do you have any?
All the articles are very vague

Not really.

What's the bottom line for redemptions on LY?

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/use-points/classic-flight-rewards/tables.html
Its here, and it's bad. 90k J to TLV from NYC, 70.8k P.
37.8k in Y is the new rate some of which is being adapted now, the rest of the changes are in effect Sept. 18.
104.5k from MIA in J.
119.2k from the west coast in J.

So here's the breakdown
Lower Y fares.
Higher J fares on longer routes.
Lower YQ.
5 new partners.
Promised more availability.
Solid devals for LY, luckily we get the good only until Sept.

[davidrotts63]

Noone seems to have a clear answer and my guess is thats what is holding up Dans post.
He will post when he has clear answers

The charts are out. It's their promises we don't know about.
Will we actually see more availability, and will/did they lower YQ?

[leaf]

Wow. From West Coast to TLV they were already in a league of their own...
I guess they had to beat the only competition out there - themselves!
What do you mean that Y is getting cheaper? Looks like it's staying steady.

[yandmk]

What's the bottom line for redemptions on LY?

The discounts in Y apply to LY, so why wouldn't the increases in J apply, too?

[leaf]

Wow. From West Coast to TLV they were already in a league of their own...
I guess they had to beat the only competition out there - themselves!
What do you mean that Y is getting cheaper? Looks like it's staying steady.

I guess you meant that Y is effective immediately (indeed went down) whereas J changes (going up) only go into effect in September.

[thaber]

https://onemileatatime.com/qantas-frequent-flyer-changes/

Waiting for the DDMS article

It's up. Seems to be missing a paragraph at the beginning saying there was a change.