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Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« on: June 09, 2021, 04:30:50 PM »
Golden flow used to sell cultured buttermilk (green cardboard quart carton). But I haven't seen it anywhere in stores for the last couple of years at least. Anyone know what happened? Do they still make it? Are there alternative CY buttermilk options (Please don't say combining regular milk with vinegar. I'm talking about real cultured buttermilk, not milk with acid)?

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2021, 05:59:10 PM »
https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/homemade-butter-and-buttermilk-242047

Thanks, but this is a different product (what people refer to as "true buttermilk" as opposed to "cultured buttermilk")

True Buttermilk: The liquid byproduct of the butter making process. Cream contains a good percentage of fat. When agitated enough, the fat (butter) separates from the watery phase (true buttermilk) of the cream

Cultured Buttermilk: Milk that has been inoculated with a live culture (bacteria that produces lactic acid). The culture thickens the milk, and produces a delicious tart flavor, as well as enzymes that are beneficial for a host of things

TL/DR: I'm looking for the cultured buttermilk, not true buttermilk.

Thanks, though.

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 04:40:29 PM »
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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 08:09:02 PM »
Kreider farms makes a cultured buttermilk. I don't know much about this topic but This MAY be considered cholov yisroel, as all the milk that kreider farms sells MAY be considered by some as cholov yisroel as there is a yid living on premises. Won't be certified cholov yisroel though
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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 09:03:52 PM »
Kreider farms makes a cultured buttermilk. I don't know much about this topic but This MAY be considered cholov yisroel, as all the milk that kreider farms sells MAY be considered by some as cholov yisroel as there is a yid living on premises. Won't be certified cholov yisroel though
are the cultures CY?

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #6 on: Today at 05:17:11 PM »
Kreider farms makes a cultured buttermilk. I don't know much about this topic but This MAY be considered cholov yisroel, as all the milk that kreider farms sells MAY be considered by some as cholov yisroel as there is a yid living on premises. Won't be certified cholov yisroel though

Thank you! This is really interesting. They make a  line that is certified Cholov Yisroel by Star K called Pride of the Farm. However, it seems the cultured buttermilk is not produced on that line, and it would make sense that the reason is because of this:
are the cultures CY?

I wonder if whichever source Golden Flow used to use for a CY buttermilk culture is no longer available.

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #7 on: Today at 05:20:16 PM »
Try contacting POTF?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #8 on: Today at 05:40:58 PM »
Try contacting POTF?

Fair. Will do. Thank you Dan.

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #9 on: Today at 06:04:46 PM »
Kreider farms makes a cultured buttermilk. I don't know much about this topic but This MAY be considered cholov yisroel, as all the milk that kreider farms sells MAY be considered by some as cholov yisroel as there is a yid living on premises. Won't be certified cholov yisroel though
Milk from Kreider farms is CY only if there is a Hebrew day (letter)  printed on the bottle.
Not sure if other products they make are CY (and would have such a letter) ...

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #10 on: Today at 07:45:47 PM »
Milk from Kreider farms is CY only if there is a Hebrew day (letter)  printed on the bottle.
Not sure if other products they make are CY (and would have such a letter) ...
False
Unless they have more then 1 farm