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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 10:00:33 AM »
Link: https://voice.torahumesorah.org/


Students should learn secular studies. If yeshiva were willing to actually work with the government to make this happen, there wouldn't be these draconian attempts to stop the out of control yeshivas.

The yeshivas are barely willing to teach 10-15 hours of secular studies in a week.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 10:03:37 AM »


Thats why your not in charge.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2019, 10:07:15 AM »
What are the secular studies they are opposed to?
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2019, 10:08:19 AM »
What are the secular studies they are opposed to?
All of them, to various degrees.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2019, 10:11:04 AM »
What are the secular studies they are opposed to?

All of them, to various degrees.

False. They are not opposed per se, they are opposed the length of time that would be required daily/weekly. 
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2019, 10:13:47 AM »
False. They are not opposed per se, they are opposed the length of time that would be required daily/weekly.
Depends on the school and the grade.

Chassidishe schools don't teach boys much past like 5th grade, certainly not in high school.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2019, 10:19:29 AM »
Depends on the school and the grade.

Chassidishe schools don't teach boys much past like 5th grade, certainly not in high school.

Notice the letter doesn’t mention 7 hours anymore but 4.4. 

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2019, 10:20:05 AM »
What are the secular studies they are opposed to?

Anything that will allow students to not be dependent upon the community.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2019, 10:20:34 AM »
Depends on the school and the grade.

Chassidishe schools don't teach boys much past like 5th grade, certainly not in high school.

This letter is geared towards the yeshiva community, not the chassidish
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2019, 10:22:07 AM »
Are we talking Math, English, History or something else?
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2019, 10:24:02 AM »
Anything that will allow students to not be dependent upon the community.
12 hours a week was plenty for me. My yeshiva was in the upper 90s percentile in NYS.
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2019, 10:25:45 AM »
Are we talking Math, English, History or something else?
They care about the amount of time they will force us to teach these studies. They dont mind teaching Math, English, History and Science. They are opposed to some more extra curricular activities.
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2019, 10:27:34 AM »
They care about the amount of time they will force us to teach these studies. They dont mind teaching Math, English, History and Science. They are opposed to some more extra curricular activities.
How much time is split between religious and non-religious studies?
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2019, 10:36:12 AM »
All of them, to various degrees.
Huh?  ::)

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2019, 10:36:16 AM »
Are we talking Math, English, History or something else?
Gender Studies!

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2019, 10:42:23 AM »
Are we talking Math, English, History or something else?

Something else.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2019, 10:43:24 AM »
Notice the letter doesn’t mention 7 hours anymore but 4.4.
7 hours was never real. It was a miscalculation of the number of credits needed per year vs. over a period of several years.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2019, 10:52:37 AM »
Here comes everyone showing off the chips on their shoulders....
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2019, 10:53:57 AM »
How much time is split between religious and non-religious studies?
4/3
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