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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #160 on: July 22, 2019, 12:54:14 PM »
The question becomes how controlling  they're going to want to be in terms of the subjects taught.

And part of the reason everyone is against this is because it sets a bad precedent of being told not just what students have to know, but also what to teach, and how.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #161 on: July 22, 2019, 02:43:02 PM »
The question becomes how controlling  they're going to want to be in terms of the subjects taught.

And part of the reason everyone is against this is because it sets a bad precedent of being told not just what students have to know, but also what to teach, and how.

Exactly my point - which is why even some non-religious private schools are against it. The fight isn't as much about adequacy as it is about governmental control of private schooling.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #162 on: August 22, 2019, 08:11:40 PM »
Thursday, August 22


Dear Parents of Yeshiva Darchei Torah and All Caring Yidden,

Look at the headline above; it appears on the cover one of our local Jewish newspapers today.

Dramatic, isn't it?

But it's real.

I am not a person who believes in drama and hyperbole where it is not warranted. But Klal Yisroel in the State of New York is in serious and imminent danger.

This is about a real and looming crisis facing every single yeshiva, Bais Yaakov and day school family in our state.

We sent out emails earlier in the summer about this, and many of you followed the prompts to make your voice heard in Albany. We thank you. Many of you did not. The deadline to submit comments on the NYS Education Department guidelines is Labor Day, Sept. 2 - just over a week away.

I urge you - I beseech you - stop whatever you are doing and make your voice heard, right now! This cannot wait.

Whether you are a yeshiva parent or not--
Whether you live in New York State or not--
Please submit the petition!

It's easy.
The repercussions of a negative ruling from Albany will, chas v'shalom, not be easy.

We rely, as always, on Hashem for our ultimate salvation in every crisis. But we dare not sit on our laurels. Inaction is not an option in this case.

Please, make sure that you and your spouse's voices are heard, and then forward this email to all of your relatives, close and distant, and urge them to make their voices heard as well.

The time is now.

Sincerely,


Rabbi Yaakov Bender
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #163 on: August 23, 2019, 08:41:53 AM »

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #164 on: August 23, 2019, 10:13:56 AM »
What's the headline?

Thursday, August 22


Dear Parents of Yeshiva Darchei Torah and All Caring Yidden,

Look at the headline above; it appears on the cover one of our local Jewish newspapers today.

Dramatic, isn't it?

But it's real.

I am not a person who believes in drama and hyperbole where it is not warranted. But Klal Yisroel in the State of New York is in serious and imminent danger.

This is about a real and looming crisis facing every single yeshiva, Bais Yaakov and day school family in our state.

We sent out emails earlier in the summer about this, and many of you followed the prompts to make your voice heard in Albany. We thank you. Many of you did not. The deadline to submit comments on the NYS Education Department guidelines is Labor Day, Sept. 2 - just over a week away.

I urge you - I beseech you - stop whatever you are doing and make your voice heard, right now! This cannot wait.

Whether you are a yeshiva parent or not--
Whether you live in New York State or not--
Please submit the petition!

It's easy.
The repercussions of a negative ruling from Albany will, chas v'shalom, not be easy.

We rely, as always, on Hashem for our ultimate salvation in every crisis. But we dare not sit on our laurels. Inaction is not an option in this case.

Please, make sure that you and your spouse's voices are heard, and then forward this email to all of your relatives, close and distant, and urge them to make their voices heard as well.

The time is now.

Sincerely,


Rabbi Yaakov Bender

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #166 on: August 23, 2019, 04:35:06 PM »
https://www.fivetownsjewishhome.com/current-issue/
page 82. It's a well written article. It's not about secular education but government bureaucrats telling us how to educate our children. Even when paying through the roof for private schools in order to avoid the disaster that NYC schools have become.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #167 on: February 07, 2020, 04:45:27 PM »

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #168 on: February 08, 2020, 03:00:03 PM »
We win. At least for now.

https://www.regents.nysed.gov/common/regents/files/220p12d1.pdf

That's a win?  Look to me like temporary reprieve.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #169 on: February 09, 2020, 07:03:14 PM »
We win. At least for now.

https://www.regents.nysed.gov/common/regents/files/220p12d1.pdf

The TL;DR, IMHO - wow, a lot of people have issues with this, we need to think a little more before we can implement anything.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #170 on: February 10, 2020, 03:29:16 AM »
The TL;DR, IMHO - wow, a lot of people have issues with this, we need to think a little more before we can implement anything.

IMHO - wow, an order of magnitude more comments than ever before, the optics of ignoring completely are really bad and don't bode well for our political future, let's pretend to take it seriously. 

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #171 on: February 10, 2020, 08:01:03 AM »
The TL;DR, IMHO - wow, a lot of people have issues with this, we need to think a little more before we can implement anything.
IMHO - wow, an order of magnitude more comments than ever before, the optics of ignoring completely are really bad and don't bode well for our political future, let's pretend to take it seriously. 
How are these different?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #172 on: February 10, 2020, 12:43:53 PM »
How are these different?

I thought @Yonah 's summary gave the impression of genuine care and concern.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #173 on: February 11, 2020, 05:58:23 PM »
I thought @Yonah 's summary gave the impression of genuine care and concern.

Please find me a genuine politician - there aren't too many, and most are on a local level.

This is a situation where the BOE is getting it on both sides - Lawsuits on the one hand from Organizations like YAFFED, and comments on the other hand from nearly every private school demographic.

I honestly don't think that this is over, but I think that they will come back in 6 months time with either:
a) Reduced guidelines based on time of instruction
or
b) A Requirement to show proficiency - i.e. pass a test

I'm thinking more likely #b - which doesn't really impact the yeshivas that are already administering Regents tests.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #174 on: February 11, 2020, 06:32:27 PM »
Please find me a genuine politician - there aren't too many, and most are on a local level.

This is a situation where the BOE is getting it on both sides - Lawsuits on the one hand from Organizations like YAFFED, and comments on the other hand from nearly every private school demographic.

I honestly don't think that this is over, but I think that they will come back in 6 months time with either:
a) Reduced guidelines based on time of instruction
or
b) A Requirement to show proficiency - i.e. pass a test

I'm thinking more likely #b - which doesn't really impact the yeshivas that are already administering Regents tests.
A judge ruled that YAFFED has no standing to sue.

CMIIW but I'm pretty sure all yeshiva students (K-8) already have a state test.