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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #60 on: July 12, 2019, 12:47:47 PM »
So some kids should only have 30 minutes of religious studies while others should receive 4 hours?
HUH?
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2019, 12:48:39 PM »
Because there has never been regents cheating in yeshivas...
Standardizing times would be no different.
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #62 on: July 12, 2019, 12:48:45 PM »
So some kids should only have 30 minutes of religious studies while others should receive 4 hours?

Jewish studies aren't there in order to pass tests. Just go to Lakewood (or countless other places, but Lakewood being the biggest example) and watch thousands studying for many hours per day, for the purpose of studying. Again, this is not religion, this is divine science and law.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2019, 01:05:21 PM by ExGingi »
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #63 on: July 12, 2019, 12:54:20 PM »
Jewish studies aren't there in order to pass tests. Just go to Lakewood (or countless other places, but Lakewood being the biggest example) and watch thousands studying for many hours per day, for the purpose of studying. Again, this is not religion, this is devine science and law.
You can put all the lipstick you want on the pig but it still is a pig.
Since I am clueless let me ask a simple n00b question. Where does this divine science and law come from?
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #64 on: July 12, 2019, 12:56:11 PM »
Standardizing times would be no different.
Because they would lie about the times?

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #65 on: July 12, 2019, 12:58:14 PM »
HUH?
I thought your point was if they can past a standardized test the amount of time they spend each day on a subject shouldn't matter.
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #66 on: July 12, 2019, 01:01:06 PM »
I thought your point was if they can past a standardized test the amount of time they spend each day on a subject shouldn't matter.
In order to receive funding? correct. Then the time can be divided at the will of the school and the parent body. It does make sense for education funding to be predicated on education being effective more so that it makes sense for it to be predicated on time spent.
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #67 on: July 12, 2019, 01:02:08 PM »
Because they would lie about the times?
He claims that such cheating occurs. Why would they cheat about one thing and not the other?
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #68 on: July 12, 2019, 01:02:21 PM »
People are fine with them being "in" to get taxpayer money.

Quite simply, I think there should be a minimum standard for state money, and if is not met, that yeshiva should get $0.

Personally, I disagree with the entire system of public schooling. Why is this over bloated form of welfare available to everyone?
If someone can't afford an education, then at most there should be a tuition credit available and will vary based on income.
This tuition credit will only be able to be used at schools at that meet a certain standard. Public schooling is way too expensive per child and has a terrible track record of education.

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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #69 on: July 12, 2019, 01:02:54 PM »
It does make sense for education funding to be predicated on education being effective more so that it makes sense for it to be predicated on time spent.

And therein lies the problem. Expecting anything that makes sense as an outcome of politics.
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #70 on: July 12, 2019, 01:03:04 PM »
Jewish studies aren't there in order to pass tests. Just go to Lakewood (or countless other places, but Lakewood being the biggest example) and watch thousands studying for many hours per day, for the purpose of studying. Again, this is not religion, this is devine science and law.
i think i read your posts just to catch spelling "mistakes" ;D
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #71 on: July 12, 2019, 01:07:11 PM »
In order to receive funding? correct.
That clears it up.
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #72 on: July 12, 2019, 01:14:43 PM »
i think i read your posts just to catch spelling "mistakes" ;D
Maybe putting devine instead of divine he is not talking about G-d?
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #73 on: July 12, 2019, 01:15:24 PM »
i think i read your posts just to catch spelling "mistakes" ;D

Isn't this the most appropriate thread for the task. Given that I don't even have a high-school diploma, nor do any of my children. (though oldest daughter did get a GED, and that definitely cements my opinion about it being a crime to waste time on secular studies).
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Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY
« Reply #74 on: July 12, 2019, 01:15:58 PM »
You can put all the lipstick you want on the pig but it still is a pig.
Since I am clueless let me ask a simple n00b question. Where does this divine science and law come from?
Bump as I think @ExGingi missed my clueless question.  :)
You're so far up Trump's a** you can see Giuliani's feet.  HT Baruch