And therein lies the problem. Expecting anything that makes sense as an outcome of politics.
Isn't this the most appropriate thread for the task. Given that I don't even have a high-school diploma, nor do any of my children. (though oldest daughter did get a GED, and that definitely cements my opinion about it being a crime to waste time on secular studies).
Bump as I think @ExGingi missed my clueless question.
"What is your vocation?""I am involved in studies, the study of the knowledge of G‑dliness known as Chassidus, and the study of Jewish Law and its observance in accordance with the Jewish religion."
Here's some background reading (though you'd probably need to read the entire story, not just this excerpt).https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2990/jewish/Chapter-IV-The-Interview.htm
No need to tell us you don't have a HS diploma as we can tell from this logic.
Wow. First time I ever heard that logical reasoning has anything to do with a high school diploma. I guess that's why some people's logic might be so flawed, as it comes from their high school diploma.
More than half the time for religion is a bit much.
An alternative middle ground we be results on various standardized test. If they can meet standards in less time all the power to them.
I hate when people throw this argument around - while there's definitely validity to it, I think too many people treat it as an all or nothing proposition, it's not. Some examples:- That money is in transportation dollars for kids who get busing to Yeshivas- That money is in subsidizing Breakfast and Lunch in some poorer communities- That money is in the special education services that kids with IEPs receive.So while most Yeshiva-Heavy districts spend less on average for a Yeshiva kid in their district, they do still spend a lot, likewise, while a Yeshiva Parent that is a taxpayer probably gets less value than his neighbor who's kids go to public school, but is still getting value from their school taxes
"probably somewhat cheaper"?Private School students get way less than $1,500 a year in services. Public School students get +$21,500. That's 15 X more."More pupils/household."2,100 Public School Students have more school costs than 32,000 Yeshiva students! #OJPACData pic.twitter.com/vMGOP5lPg9— OJPAC (@OJPAC) June 28, 2019
"probably somewhat cheaper"?Private School students get way less than $1,500 a year in services. Public School students get +$21,500. That's 15 X more."More pupils/household."2,100 Public School Students have more school costs than 32,000 Yeshiva students! #OJPACData pic.twitter.com/vMGOP5lPg9
It costs taxpayers less money to cover 6 Hasidic children on Medicaid than the cost of one child in public school. And... more than half public schools students are on Medicaid too.#OJPACDataP.S. Yeshiva students get $1,500 schools services annualy. Public get 15 X more!— OJPAC (@OJPAC) June 28, 2019
It costs taxpayers less money to cover 6 Hasidic children on Medicaid than the cost of one child in public school. And... more than half public schools students are on Medicaid too.#OJPACDataP.S. Yeshiva students get $1,500 schools services annualy. Public get 15 X more!
To ExGingi's point - Gemara itself, fulfills several secular subjects:- Critical Thinking / Critical Literacy- Law- Discrete Mathematics (Logic)- Although it's a stretch, it also teaches History (via aggadata) and Social Studies (i.e. forms of government, courts, social structure of second temple society)
I had 2-2.5 hours of daily secular studies in high school and only had 3 years of it. Still managed a 1420 on the SAT, skipped college, and got a 3.98 GPA in business grad school.4.4 hours seems excessive. Negotiating tactic?
