Author Topic: Help plan my short Israel/Jerusalem trip Thanksgiving weekend (Read 11899 times)

moish · « **Reply #20 on:** October 16, 2011, 11:13:54 AM »

well the reason it hasnt become popular will probably continue, they dont advertise. it was completely by chance that i found out about them, about 3 months after they opened.

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #21 on:** October 16, 2011, 06:22:10 PM »

Quote from: moish on October 16, 2011, 11:13:54 AM

well the reason it hasnt become popular will probably continue, they dont advertise. it was completely by chance that i found out about them, about 3 months after they opened.

+1 - bumped into it by accident. I think this should travel by word of mouth though

Red · « **Reply #22 on:** October 16, 2011, 06:48:57 PM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on October 09, 2011, 08:01:58 PM

In Jerusalem - Modern in the Israel Museum is a new amazing restaurant. Beats Keyara IMHO, and cheaper. Hechsher is now OU mehadirin, but there have been rumors of them removing the kashers soon.

Just to let you know OU standards here in E"Y are not the same as in the states. Many times they will just add their Hashgacha if there is a Rabbanut there from before. Hechsherim are very complicated here and I recommend research into a place before visiting.

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #23 on:** October 16, 2011, 06:52:58 PM »

Quote from: rd on October 16, 2011, 06:48:57 PM

Just to let you know OU standards here in E"Y are not the same as in the states. Many times they will just add their Hashgacha if there is a Rabbanut there from before. Hechsherim are very complicated here and I recommend research into a place before visiting.

Well they are a subsidiary of the OU, & OU in the US obviously relies on them, so one way or another we all eat their stuff.

moish · « **Reply #24 on:** October 16, 2011, 10:24:00 PM »

Quote from: rd on October 16, 2011, 06:48:57 PM

Just to let you know OU standards here in E"Y are not the same as in the states. Many times they will just add their Hashgacha if there is a Rabbanut there from before. Hechsherim are very complicated here and I recommend research into a place before visiting.

how updated is your info?

Red · « **Reply #25 on:** October 17, 2011, 06:02:38 AM »

Quote from: moish on October 16, 2011, 10:24:00 PM

how updated is your info?

Current. I live here.

moish · « **Reply #26 on:** October 17, 2011, 06:17:56 AM »

so do i. can you give an example of when they just added themselves onto a rabbanut hashgacha

Red · « **Reply #27 on:** October 17, 2011, 06:39:27 AM »

I don't have any specific location, just info from my Rav.

Cashman · « **Reply #28 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:29:11 AM »

Quote from: rd on October 17, 2011, 06:39:27 AM

I don't have any specific location, just info from my Rav.

Well the OU in America strongly disagrees with you. According to Rabbi Elefant The head of kashruth for the OU the level of kashruth in Israel is the same as in America.

Red · « **Reply #29 on:** October 17, 2011, 09:10:56 AM »

Quote from: cashman on October 17, 2011, 07:29:11 AM

Well the OU in America strongly disagrees with you. According to Rabbi Elefant The head of kashruth for the OU the level of kashruth in Israel is the same as in America.

So be it. This is the info i have, if you have different info do with it as you see fit.

moish · « **Reply #30 on:** October 18, 2011, 10:37:54 PM »

the ou in israel used to have major problems. but then r' krakowski took over and changed it around. it would seem that your rov has outdated info

sky121 · « **Reply #31 on:** October 18, 2011, 10:59:36 PM »

Quote from: rd on October 17, 2011, 09:10:56 AM

So be it. This is the info i have, if you have different info do with it as you see fit.

Politics Politics. It's 95% politics.

moish · « **Reply #32 on:** October 18, 2011, 11:17:59 PM »

Quote from: sky121 on October 18, 2011, 10:59:36 PM

Politics Politics. It's 95% politics.

nope

elikay · « **Reply #33 on:** October 18, 2011, 11:20:44 PM »

Mitzvos Hateluyos Baaretz (Teruma, Maaser, Shmitta, Orla, etc..) is one of the reasons that people are more machmir when it comes to hechsherim in Eretz yisroel. For instance, the OU infamously relied on the heter mechira for shemitta (although they don't anymore). So even if their standards are comparable to the US, many people opt not to rely on them due to that reason.

moish · « **Reply #34 on:** October 18, 2011, 11:23:11 PM »

like i said, the ou israel was completely rehauled in the last 2 years

elikay · « **Reply #35 on:** October 18, 2011, 11:39:33 PM »

My point is that even if it were as good as in the US, still many people would hesistate for that reason.

moish · « **Reply #36 on:** October 19, 2011, 12:07:10 AM »

hesitate for what reason? where do they lack in regards to mitzvos hateluyos baaretz?

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #37 on:** October 19, 2011, 06:11:52 AM »

Quote from: elikay on October 18, 2011, 11:39:33 PM

My point is that even if it were as good as in the US, still many people would hesistate for that reason.

If you rely on the OU in the US, and they rely on the OU in Israel, you are eating stuff supervised by the OU in Israel. So IMHO either you trust the global directorship of the OU, or don't trust any of them.
The only thing I can hear is if you try to be more Machmir while in EY, but then don't eat American OU products either.

Dan · « **Reply #38 on:** October 19, 2011, 09:21:17 AM »

Actually you shouldn't eat any processed food if you don't eat OU in the US. Every hechsher out there allows OU products as ingredients in products they put a hechsher on.

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #39 on:** October 19, 2011, 09:26:56 AM »

Quote from: Dan on October 19, 2011, 09:21:17 AM

Actually you shouldn't eat any processed food if you don't eat OU in the US. Every hechsher out there allows OU products as ingredients in products they put a hechsher on.

I don't know anything about this, but I don't think the Bdatz Eida Charedis relies on the OU.