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1.  there / their / they're
2.  a vs. an
3.  went vs. have gone
4. It's vs. Its
5. Affect vs. Effect
6.  Capital vs Capitol

  • Commas go before the space, like this, not like ,this.
  • Commas/periods go after the close parenthesis (like this), not before (like this.)   (Unless the entire sentence is enclosed.)
  • All punctuation goes inside the quotation, like "this." not like "this".

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #260 on: June 12, 2022, 11:20:49 AM »
Rouge vs. Rogue

Rouge:  any of various cosmetics for coloring the cheeks or lips red
  E.g., She was wearing too much rouge.
  (m-w.com)
  In French, it simply means "red."

Rogue:  person, organization, or country that does not behave in the usual or acceptable way
  As a noun:  Buzzy’s a fun-loving teenage rogue.
  As an adjective:  A rogue employee might tap into the computer.
  (dictionary.cambridge.org)
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #261 on: June 12, 2022, 01:45:06 PM »
Rouge vs. Rogue

Rouge:  any of various cosmetics for coloring the cheeks or lips red
  E.g., She was wearing too much rouge.
  (m-w.com)
  In French, it simply means "red."

Rogue:  person, organization, or country that does not behave in the usual or acceptable way
  As a noun:  Buzzy’s a fun-loving teenage rogue.
  As an adjective:  A rogue employee might tap into the computer.
  (dictionary.cambridge.org)
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #262 on: July 27, 2022, 12:32:45 PM »
In many states you can. NY yes, while in NJ you cannot.

 Using "can not" in place of cannot? Or there's a reason and a rhyme to use one Vs the other?
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #263 on: July 27, 2022, 12:51:36 PM »
Using "can not" in place of cannot? Or there's a reason?

In formal writing, it is generally thought best to avoid contractions, no hard rules, AFAIK.

Using "can not" in place of cannot? Or there's a rhyme?

In writing that's formal
Official or whatnot
It's best to spell it out
And write in full - cannot

But if you're being chill
Your writing's more like art
Then do whatever you want
No one will say you can't

ETA:

Yehuda57 ...  writes with a South African accent

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #264 on: July 27, 2022, 01:22:39 PM »
Using "can not" in place of cannot? Or there's a reason and a rhyme to use one Vs the other?
Cannot is more common, but the accent is on the first syllable, "can", so if I wanted to emphasize the "not", I might separate the words:
In NY you can, but in NJ you can not.

Making this up as I go along, and now I'm not sure.  I would probably rewrite it:
In NY you can, but not in NJ.

But I would definitely separate them in:
No! I said you can NOT have that last bit of chocolate ice cream!

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #265 on: July 27, 2022, 01:28:20 PM »
Lol, I made that whole stupid post based on totally misreading the question. I couldnot* be dumber.

Grammarly kindly tried to correct this dumb joke, nevertheless, I persisted.

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #266 on: July 27, 2022, 01:45:20 PM »
Lol, I made that whole stupid post based on totally misreading the question. I couldnot* be dumber.

Grammarly kindly tried to correct this dumb joke, nevertheless, I persisted.
It was funny!  I googled cannot vs can not, and most links gave some variation of yours, ie, cannot vs can't.  (or can't, with an American accent)
So I invented this usage rule.  Sound reasonable?

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #267 on: August 01, 2022, 02:55:54 PM »
In formal writing, it is generally thought best to avoid contractions, no hard rules, AFAIK.

In writing that's formal
Official or whatnot
It's best to spell it out
And write in full - cannot

But if you're being chill
Your writing's more like art
Then do whatever you want
No one will say you can't

ETA:
Cannot is more common, but the accent is on the first syllable, "can", so if I wanted to emphasize the "not", I might separate the words:
In NY you can, but in NJ you can not.

Making this up as I go along, and now I'm not sure.  I would probably rewrite it:
In NY you can, but not in NJ.

But I would definitely separate them in:
No! I said you can NOT have that last bit of chocolate ice cream!
Interesting..
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #268 on: November 08, 2022, 06:18:02 AM »
independence vs independents

Independence
noun
the fact or state of being independent.
"Argentina gained independence from Spain in 1816"

Independents
plural of noun: independent
an independent person or body.
"one of the few independents left in the music business"

(From Oxford Languages, according to Google)
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