Author Topic: Why I don’t live in Israel yet (Read 14915 times)

Kabrams1618 · « **on:** August 07, 2019, 10:05:18 PM »

I have read with great interest many post complaining about this Israeli hotel or that Israeli problem with kashrut or issues with Judaism in Israel. I would be interested in knowing your one main reason for not living in Israel. If you made aliyah, the main reason why.
Just so you know, I came nine years ago with three teenagers, no job and no housing so I have heard most of the excuses.
Best move I ever made for my family and I! I am interested in why you are all not here helping to shape the country instead of complaining about it.

CountValentine · « **Reply #1 on:** August 07, 2019, 10:14:15 PM »

Great topic. Can't wait for the responses.

12HRS · « **Reply #2 on:** August 07, 2019, 10:16:11 PM »

Too far from my in-laws

Mordyk · « **Reply #3 on:** August 07, 2019, 10:39:21 PM »

Simply dont have the courage to move away from family.

12HRS · « **Reply #4 on:** August 07, 2019, 10:53:51 PM »

Quote from: Mordyk on August 07, 2019, 10:39:21 PM

Simply dont have the courage to move away from family.

are you my wife?

shmoe joe · « **Reply #5 on:** August 07, 2019, 11:09:14 PM »

Quote from: 12HRS on August 07, 2019, 10:16:11 PM

Too far from my in-laws

this would be first reason you should live there!!

Z56 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 07, 2019, 11:18:52 PM »

Lived there and moved back;)

ExGingi · « **Reply #7 on:** August 07, 2019, 11:51:10 PM »

Quote from: Kabrams1618 on August 07, 2019, 10:05:18 PM

I have read with great interest many post complaining about this Israeli hotel or that Israeli problem with kashrut or issues with Judaism in Israel. I would be interested in knowing your one main reason for not living in Israel. If you made aliyah, the main reason why.
Just so you know, I came nine years ago with three teenagers, no job and no housing so I have heard most of the excuses.
Best move I ever made for my family and I! I am interested in why you are all not here helping to shape the country instead of complaining about it.

You are making it sound like everyone should naturally want to live there, and a reason for not doing so should be given. I would ask "why should or would I move there" first.

ludmila · « **Reply #8 on:** August 07, 2019, 11:53:15 PM »

Quote from: ExGingi on August 07, 2019, 11:51:10 PM

You are making it sound like everyone should naturally want to live there, and a reason for not doing so should be given. I would ask "why should or would I move there" first.

Nice weather

ExGingi · « **Reply #9 on:** August 07, 2019, 11:56:09 PM »

Quote from: ludmila on August 07, 2019, 11:53:15 PM

Nice weather

Haven't found it to be significantly nicer than what I have here (and occasionally worse), though the lifestyle there would have me exposed more than I am here to weather related inconveniences (I am talking from experience).

Yard sale · « **Reply #10 on:** August 08, 2019, 12:24:13 AM »

Want my kids to stay on the derech

jmz · « **Reply #11 on:** August 08, 2019, 12:27:03 AM »

Quote from: Yard sale on August 08, 2019, 12:24:13 AM

Want my kids to stay on the derech

Interesting. Where do you live now that makes you sure that you will succeed?

Simply just wondering, this is one of my biggest concerns.

Kabrams1618 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 08, 2019, 12:34:24 AM »

Quote from: Yard sale on August 08, 2019, 12:24:13 AM

Want my kids to stay on the derech

Was this your reason for not coming or for making Aliyah?

cmey · « **Reply #13 on:** August 08, 2019, 12:39:53 AM »

https://mishpacha.com/a-response-to-too-far-from-home/

Yard sale · « **Reply #14 on:** August 08, 2019, 12:47:39 AM »

Quote from: Kabrams1618 on August 08, 2019, 12:34:24 AM

Was this your reason for not coming or for making Aliyah?

I can think of a classmate of mine who’s family made Aliyah with relatively older kids and a relative who did so as well. They stand out from my classmates and relatives who did not make Aliyah in that each have multiple kids who no longer keep shabbos ( one was actually yored to Florida). Admittedly anecdotal but consistent with what I have heard from many people; making the move with kids older than infants is a risk.

Definitions · « **Reply #15 on:** August 08, 2019, 02:12:39 AM »

Quote from: Yard sale on August 08, 2019, 12:47:39 AM

I can think of a classmate of mine who’s family made Aliyah with relatively older kids and a relative who did so as well. They stand out from my classmates and relatives who did not make Aliyah in that each have multiple kids who no longer keep shabbos ( one was actually yored to Florida). Admittedly anecdotal but consistent with what I have heard from many people; making the move with kids older than infants is a risk.

I suspect that the type of people that make aliyah are the type of people that regardless have a higher risk of kids going off.

churnbabychurn · « **Reply #16 on:** August 08, 2019, 07:02:09 AM »

Job

And security. (Though currently the USA is starting to feel almost as unsafe as Israel. But if course it's not even comparable..)

12HRS · « **Reply #17 on:** August 08, 2019, 07:44:15 AM »

Quote from: churnbabychurn on August 08, 2019, 07:02:09 AM

Job

And security. (Though currently the USA is starting to feel almost as unsafe as Israel. But if course it's not even comparable..)

you feel less safe there?

12HRS · « **Reply #18 on:** August 08, 2019, 07:47:20 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on August 07, 2019, 11:51:10 PM

You are making it sound like everyone should naturally want to live there, and a reason for not doing so should be given. I would ask "why should or would I move there" first.

Its actually sad that you should ask this. Unless there is something about Chabad shitos that I am unaware of.

YesThatsMe · « **Reply #19 on:** August 08, 2019, 07:49:53 AM »

The racist attitude against Chareidim (even highly educated and competent ones) in the Israeli business world.

Other than that there’s no better place to live.