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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #100 on: August 23, 2019, 12:06:45 PM »
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #101 on: August 23, 2019, 12:08:11 PM »
Anyone?
How have humans become so depraved & twisted that they

1) rejoice in someone’s suffering &/or death because he has different political beliefs

2) wish ill (& worse) on a newborn baby because they don’t like his/her grandpa

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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #102 on: August 23, 2019, 12:09:49 PM »
Are people born bad or is it their upbringing/environment?

I.e. Would you kill baby hitler or just give him a better upbringing.

Also on topic if you want, how much do parents really influence their kids lives. You see so many people with different upbringings come out so many different ways, what choices as a parent really makes a difference.
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #103 on: August 23, 2019, 12:16:53 PM »
Who said it is? Just the fact is people do bad things, so where does that come from...
Ok but it seems like you agree nurturing does affect a person. So what difference does it make at the end of the day whether it's nature or nurture?
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #104 on: August 23, 2019, 01:16:36 PM »
Are people born bad or is it their upbringing/environment?

I.e. Would you kill baby hitler or just give him a better upbringing.

Also on topic if you want, how much do parents really influence their kids lives. You see so many people with different upbringings come out so many different ways, what choices as a parent really makes a difference.
Good one!
I would say it is a combination. Some people are just wired evil. Overall I would say it is a very small percentage wired this way.

I would not kill any baby.

I would say parents have a great influence.
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #106 on: August 23, 2019, 01:52:56 PM »
Share with us your deep insights :)
Humanity has been trying to figure out the answer to this question for thousands of years. Something tells me that a bunch of bored DDFers aren't going to crack it in one Friday
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #107 on: August 23, 2019, 02:04:18 PM »
Humanity has been trying to figure out the answer to this question for thousands of years. Something tells me that a bunch of bored DDFers aren't going to crack it in one Friday
We have plenty of Fridays.
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #108 on: August 23, 2019, 02:06:58 PM »
"JS [is] a fetid cesspool of unvarnished linguistic manure, with lots of useless drivel and post-padding." -Moishebatchy

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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #109 on: August 23, 2019, 04:32:39 PM »
Would you kill baby hitler

I think the Jewish perspective on this is quite clear -

באשר הוא שם
לְפִי מַעֲשִׂים שֶׁהוּא עוֹשֶׂה עַכְשָׁו הוּא נִדּוֹן, וְלֹא לְפִי מַה שֶּׁהוּא עָתִיד לַעֲשׂוֹת (ראש השנה ט"ז), לְפִי שֶׁהָיוּ מַלְאֲכֵי הַשָּׁרֵת מְקַטְרְגִים וְאוֹמְרִים רִבּוֹנו שֶׁל עוֹלָם, מִי שֶׁעָתִיד זַרְעוֹ לְהָמִית בָּנֶיךָ בַּצָּמָא אַתָּה מַעֲלֶה לוֹ בְּאֵר, וְהוּא מְשִׁיבָם עַכְשָׁו מַה הוּא, צַדִּיק אוֹ רָשָׁע? אָמְרוּ לוֹ צַדִּיק, אָמַר לָהֶם לְפִי מַעֲשָׂיו שֶׁל עַכְשָׁו אֲנִי דָנוֹ, וְזֶהוּ בַּאֲשֶׁר הוּא שָׁם

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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #111 on: August 23, 2019, 04:54:20 PM »
Are people born bad or is it their upbringing/environment?

I.e. Would you kill baby hitler or just give him a better upbringing.

Also on topic if you want, how much do parents really influence their kids lives. You see so many people with different upbringings come out so many different ways, what choices as a parent really makes a difference.
I guess it would depend if they’re from Amalek or not

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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #112 on: August 23, 2019, 04:55:23 PM »
I think the Jewish perspective on this is quite clear -

באשר הוא שם
לְפִי מַעֲשִׂים שֶׁהוּא עוֹשֶׂה עַכְשָׁו הוּא נִדּוֹן, וְלֹא לְפִי מַה שֶּׁהוּא עָתִיד לַעֲשׂוֹת (ראש השנה ט"ז), לְפִי שֶׁהָיוּ מַלְאֲכֵי הַשָּׁרֵת מְקַטְרְגִים וְאוֹמְרִים רִבּוֹנו שֶׁל עוֹלָם, מִי שֶׁעָתִיד זַרְעוֹ לְהָמִית בָּנֶיךָ בַּצָּמָא אַתָּה מַעֲלֶה לוֹ בְּאֵר, וְהוּא מְשִׁיבָם עַכְשָׁו מַה הוּא, צַדִּיק אוֹ רָשָׁע? אָמְרוּ לוֹ צַדִּיק, אָמַר לָהֶם לְפִי מַעֲשָׂיו שֶׁל עַכְשָׁו אֲנִי דָנוֹ, וְזֶהוּ בַּאֲשֶׁר הוּא שָׁם

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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #113 on: August 23, 2019, 06:12:17 PM »
a  בן סורר ומורר is judged for what he will end up doing
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #114 on: August 23, 2019, 06:56:50 PM »
I think the Jewish perspective on this is quite clear -

באשר הוא שם
לְפִי מַעֲשִׂים שֶׁהוּא עוֹשֶׂה עַכְשָׁו הוּא נִדּוֹן, וְלֹא לְפִי מַה שֶּׁהוּא עָתִיד לַעֲשׂוֹת (ראש השנה ט"ז), לְפִי שֶׁהָיוּ מַלְאֲכֵי הַשָּׁרֵת מְקַטְרְגִים וְאוֹמְרִים רִבּוֹנו שֶׁל עוֹלָם, מִי שֶׁעָתִיד זַרְעוֹ לְהָמִית בָּנֶיךָ בַּצָּמָא אַתָּה מַעֲלֶה לוֹ בְּאֵר, וְהוּא מְשִׁיבָם עַכְשָׁו מַה הוּא, צַדִּיק אוֹ רָשָׁע? אָמְרוּ לוֹ צַדִּיק, אָמַר לָהֶם לְפִי מַעֲשָׂיו שֶׁל עַכְשָׁו אֲנִי דָנוֹ, וְזֶהוּ בַּאֲשֶׁר הוּא שָׁם

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But then there is always the בן סורר ומורר שנדון על שם סופו

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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #115 on: August 25, 2019, 10:01:08 AM »
a  בן סורר ומורר is judged for what he will end up doing
Not simple st all, many meforshim are very busy with this exact question there.

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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #116 on: August 25, 2019, 10:02:54 AM »


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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #117 on: August 25, 2019, 10:03:47 AM »
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #118 on: August 25, 2019, 10:08:49 AM »

Please stay out of my thread with your crap.  >:(
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Re: PC friday question of the day.
« Reply #119 on: September 06, 2019, 11:24:12 AM »
Well? @jj1000
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