PC friday question of the day.

[skyguy918]

Been discussed before:
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=89668.msg1870368

I still think it's weird for everyone to assume the orthodox divorce rate is increasing without any real data one way or the other.

[CountValentine]

I still think it's weird for everyone to assume the orthodox divorce rate is increasing without any real data one way or the other.

What do you see in your circle?

[CountValentine]

https://www.cjnews.com/featured/jewish-learning/divorce-rates-stigma-remains

https://divorce.lovetoknow.com/Divorce_Statistics_by_Religion
Jewish Divorce Rates
The most recent available study on divorce statistics among those of Jewish faith states approximately 9 percent of those surveyed have been divorced or separated. A 2017 article in The Jerusalem Post reports the divorce rate among members of the Orthodox Jewish faith is on the rise. The reasons for this include changes in society's values, the desire for instant gratification, and a disconnected world.

https://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

[Yehudaa]

Been discussed before:
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=89668.msg1870368

I still think it's weird for everyone to assume the orthodox divorce rate is increasing without any real data one way or the other.

Real data would definitely be more convincing but I think in the absence of it then many people with similar anecdotal observations is definitely worth something, no? That's what might be going on here.

I have no idea if this makes sense mathematically or scientifically, but that's just my thought.

[yuneeq]

Been discussed before:
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=89668.msg1870368

I still think it's weird for everyone to assume the orthodox divorce rate is increasing without any real data one way or the other.

Agree. A couple things to consider if all we have is anecdotes:

-A growing population means a higher divorce count even if divorce rate is flat. Hearing about more divorces will make it seem more common.
-Social networking and being connected to far more people than previously means we will know more divorcees personally and news about it spreads faster and further.

[CountValentine]

-A growing population means a higher divorce count even if divorce rate is flat. Hearing about more divorces will make it seem more common.

Rate is going up.

[mmgfarb]

I think the askanim involved in these situations will tell you that he rate has been increasing.

[yuneeq]

Rate is going up.

Only one article shows the rate is going up, and over a 10 year period (2001-2011) it went from 7.5% to 8.6.
Doesn't seem so drastic, and if our modern society was corrupting everyone I would think it would be growing faster than this.

[CountValentine]

Only one article shows the rate is going up, and over a 10 year period (2001-2011) it went from 7.5% to 8.6.
Doesn't seem so drastic, and if our modern society was corrupting everyone I would think it would be growing faster than this.

BTDT and it takes time.

[skyguy918]

https://www.cjnews.com/featured/jewish-learning/divorce-rates-stigma-remains

https://divorce.lovetoknow.com/Divorce_Statistics_by_Religion
Jewish Divorce Rates
The most recent available study on divorce statistics among those of Jewish faith states approximately 9 percent of those surveyed have been divorced or separated. A 2017 article in The Jerusalem Post reports the divorce rate among members of the Orthodox Jewish faith is on the rise. The reasons for this include changes in society's values, the desire for instant gratification, and a disconnected world.

https://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

Rate is going up.

Source? In the first link from your earlier comment, the article addresses the Orthodox (through quotes from Orthodox divorcees), but the statistics quoted (from the JFC - UIA study of the 2011 NHS) clearly reflect the overall Jewish population, not the Orthodox population alone. The second link makes it sound like it pertains to the Orthodox (as in the part you quoted), but if you click through to the JPost article, it's about divorce throughout Israel, and not exclusive to orthodoxy. The third link makes no mention of Orthodoxy at all.

[grodnoking]

Bump

[mmgfarb]

Boo

[username]

New question:
Is it better to call a non-jew a Goy or a gentile.
Are they considered offensive?

[ExGingi]

New question:
Is it better to call a non-jew a Goy or a gentile.
Are they considered offensive?

Whether it's offensive or not my just depends on how thick the skin is.

[Yonah]

New question:
Is it better to call a non-jew a Goy or a gentile.
Are they considered offensive?

Depends on the person, and the context. For example, referring to your non-Jewish friend that you have a good relationship with as a shabbos goy, is probably not offensive. Saying it as 'You're such a goy!" - probably more so.

[CountValentine]

Lets get an early start. @jj1000

[CountValentine]

I have one from a recent discussion.
Does your post on this forum reflect on your character? Another words if you believe xyz does that say something about who you are?

Part 2 
If I say your posts are a refection on your character is that an attack on your character?

[jj1000]

I have one from a recent discussion.
Does your post on this forum reflect on your character? Another words if you believe xyz does that say something about who you are?

Part 2 
If I say your posts are a refection on your character is that an attack on your character?

I find people VERY different in person than their online persona.

[CountValentine]

I find people VERY different in person than their online persona.

True but in which ways? Are their views different than online?
How about part 2? 

[ExGingi]

I have one from a recent discussion.
Does your post on this forum reflect on your character? Another words if you believe xyz does that say something about who you are?

Part 2 
If I say your posts are a refection on your character is that an attack on your character?

Why don't you start by answering your own questions?