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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2011, 03:36:48 PM »
+100. Bring back Golda Meir.

Or at least some half-normal parties like the National Union and Yisrael Beiteinu.
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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2011, 03:39:07 PM »
Maybe Israel discovered a strain of small pox with a 1 week incubation period
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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2011, 03:47:36 PM »
It seems they'll be doing the 'barter' in two phases, the first of which will be the release of 450 terrorists in exchange for moving Shalit to Egypt.

What happens if Hamas backs out after that first phase?
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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2011, 03:54:39 PM »
It seems they'll be doing the 'barter' in two phases, the first of which will be the release of 450 terrorists in exchange for moving Shalit to Egypt.

What happens if Hamas backs out after that first phase?

Same thing that happens to Israel in the "peace-process": <fill in the blank>
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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2011, 04:00:37 PM »
Meir Dagan (famed former Mossad head) told reporters the Mossad studied the ramification of a previous prisoner release deal - about 1000 terrorists, and it directly caused 126 deaths. So sounds like this is a bad idea.

They do impose conditions upon release - like not returning to the territories for x years. They can enforce it pretty easily (missiles).

Didn't anyone else hear about his mothers alleged geirus?
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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2011, 04:01:03 PM »
If we razed a house (or shot one of the thousands of terrorists we're holding who have Jewish blood on their hands) for every day Shalit wasn't returned, they would get the message much quicker. Instead of them making us pay the price, we should make them pay it.

Man, I was thinking about this some more, and I'd like to change my vote to +1,000. 100 was insufficient.

I mean, if we did this, we'd (read: israel) be an international pariah, but it should would make Mohammad think twice.

Go review the rate of terrorism during Her Eminence, Golda Meir's time. Then tell me it doesn't work. She's the only one who had it right.

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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2011, 04:16:12 PM »
israel still does this to some extent. they will buldoze your house if they suspect that your are a terrorist
not sure how much it is helping nowadays in golda meir's time there was less terrorism to begin with so the numbers may not be good proof

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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2011, 04:22:36 PM »
israel still does this to some extent. they will buldoze your house if they suspect that your are a terrorist
not sure how much it is helping nowadays in golda meir's time there was less terrorism to begin with so the numbers may not be good proof

Hmmm... chicken or the egg?
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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2011, 04:26:25 PM »
They do impose conditions upon release - like not returning to the territories for x years. They can enforce it pretty easily (missiles).

Then they should start enforcing breaches of Camp David, Wye, Oslo etc.
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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2011, 07:19:46 PM »
FINAL: Gov. voted 26-3 with 2 absentees. In return for 1,027 prisoners. 450 first stage, rest afterwards. to be completed within 6 days.
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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2011, 07:43:06 PM »
This is literally giving in to a temptation, where it feels good in the beginning but will feel -- I don't even know what to say -- at the end!   

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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2011, 08:47:02 PM »
Nice PR move by Hamas. Just when Abbas was getting all the credit on the Palestinian street for asking for a state at the UN, they pull off this move to take the credit for bringing home 1000 Palestinians, and gain points versus Fatah. They could've agreed long ago, but waited for the right moment to score the most points against their rival!

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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2011, 08:50:05 PM »
Their all the Zalbe Drek

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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2011, 09:03:45 PM »
Is there any official word/confirmation of Gilad's condition?
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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2011, 09:05:23 PM »
That's a good point! My mind is taking me to those novels where the prisoner returns and a poison takes affect. In any even, psychologically he's probably fried.

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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2011, 09:16:03 PM »
That's a good point! My mind is taking me to those novels where the prisoner returns and a poison takes affect. In any even, psychologically he's probably fried.

I'm just worried the dumb Israelis are trading 1,000 killers for a body-bag.
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Re: Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2011, 09:17:18 PM »
I'm just worried the dumb Israelis are trading 1,000 killers for a body-bag.

Well hopefully they know at least a little bit what they're doing.  I hope.

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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2011, 09:17:34 PM »
A sad day for Israel. 1000 of soldiers risked their lifes (some prob got killed) to capture these terrorists. Now they are let free... Hamas learned from Hizbolla. After the israelis released prisoners for Tennenbaum, they figured, we can do the same. In a year, they will just do it again and again.... I am curious to know if Gilad would have wanted this deal, knowing they are releasing murderers for him?!


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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2011, 09:34:27 PM »
I'm just worried the dumb Israelis are trading 1,000 killers for a body-bag.

Well they traded 20 for a video. And I never forget out how one Israeli get's thousands of Nivaylahs

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Re: Gilad Shalit to be released!
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2011, 09:49:28 PM »
A sad day for Israel. 1000 of soldiers risked their lifes (some prob got killed) to capture these terrorists. Now they are let free... Hamas learned from Hizbolla. After the israelis released prisoners for Tennenbaum, they figured, we can do the same. In a year, they will just do it again and again.... I am curious to know if Gilad would have wanted this deal, knowing they are releasing murderers for him?!


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