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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #80 on: June 23, 2022, 02:18:13 PM »
While the trained people just mill around and wait an hour
Not in Uvalde's case, the police weren't gonna run in for nothin'

As soon as a "good guy with a gun" started shooting the police would have gone in VERY fast.
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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #81 on: June 23, 2022, 02:57:12 PM »
The way my imagination sees this is a western style shootout between people who are untrained killing many children stuck in the middle
Imagine just one lunatic killing as many people as he could with no resistance at all, in fact you don't need your imagination here bec. thats exactly what happened. Is that really the better option?

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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #82 on: June 23, 2022, 03:16:50 PM »
Did we all forget what happened in Buffalo with the good man with a gun? The supermarket guard tried shooting with his pistol at the 18 yr boy, bullet was repelled by the heavy body armor the shooter wore, and of course the guard was shot instantly to death by the murder's overpowering AR-15.

These monsters gear up as full fledge commandos and people naively believe that a teacher with a handgun in her pocketbook would make all the difference.   

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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #83 on: June 23, 2022, 04:02:02 PM »
Did we all forget what happened in Buffalo with the good man with a gun? The supermarket guard tried shooting with his pistol at the 18 yr boy, bullet was repelled by the heavy body armor the shooter wore, and of course the guard was shot instantly to death by the murder's overpowering AR-15.

These monsters gear up as full fledge commandos and people naively believe that a teacher with a handgun in her pocketbook would make all the difference.
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Someone walking in with a gun in their hands is no match. Concealed weapons, which the shooter usually does not account for, can be much more effective.

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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #84 on: June 23, 2022, 04:08:23 PM »
There was a recent video retweeted on June 9 by James Woods (which was since deleted by Twitter) that showed this exactly. Three guys walk into a convenience store, one draws a gun and points it at the proprietor. A customer at the counter sneaks a gun out of his pants and shoots the unprepared gunman. Threat neutralized, only because the weapon was concealed.

ETA: This is not the video I saw, but it's another such case

« Last Edit: June 23, 2022, 04:13:25 PM by YitzyS »

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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #85 on: June 23, 2022, 04:30:48 PM »
There was a recent video retweeted on June 9 by James Woods (which was since deleted by Twitter) that showed this exactly. Three guys walk into a convenience store, one draws a gun and points it at the proprietor. A customer at the counter sneaks a gun out of his pants and shoots the unprepared gunman. Threat neutralized, only because the weapon was concealed.

ETA: This is not the video I saw, but it's another such case


afaik, these are the exact cases police actively discourage the use of weapons. Money is not worth your life and a majority of such cases the defender gets hurt.

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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #86 on: June 23, 2022, 04:31:22 PM »
afaik, these are the exact cases police actively discourage the use of weapons. Money is not worth your life and a majority of such cases the defender gets hurt.

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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #87 on: June 23, 2022, 04:33:56 PM »
afaik, these are the exact cases police actively discourage the use of weapons. Money is not worth your life and a majority of such cases the defender gets hurt.
Why do you think the gunman won't shoot first?

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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #88 on: June 23, 2022, 04:46:43 PM »
Why do you think the gunman won't shoot first?
all they want is cash. I am not saying you canít shoot or have a gun. When possible Itís Best to swallow pride and not get shot.

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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #89 on: June 23, 2022, 04:48:39 PM »
all they want is cash. I am not saying you canít shoot or have a gun. When possible Itís Best to swallow pride and not get shot.
I don't know statistics, but I know of cases where an armed robbery quickly turned into a murder.

I don't remember the details well, but is that what happened when the Ger Tzedek was killed in the liquor store in Flatbush?

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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #90 on: June 23, 2022, 05:29:13 PM »
afaik, these are the exact cases police actively discourage the use of weapons. Money is not worth your life and a majority of such cases the defender gets hurt.

Robberies turn ugly often. Itís the bystanders choice whether to risk it or not.
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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #92 on: June 24, 2022, 08:36:46 AM »
Looks like he picked his phone number as the winning numbers.

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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #94 on: June 24, 2022, 12:17:50 PM »
Optics of this, in the wake of the recent attacks, aren't great
Why not? Imagine having the good guy with a gun, why should it only be reserved for the bad guys
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Re: Latest news Master thread
« Reply #95 on: June 24, 2022, 12:36:40 PM »
Why not? Imagine having the good guy with a gun,
The way my imagination sees this is a western style shootout between people who are untrained killing many children stuck in the middle
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