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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2019, 12:09:08 PM »
Banning an elected member of congress does not show you are a friend of the US. It shows you are taking sides in a political US battle. It will come back to bite you.

Not in the political climate we currently live in. We already have elected politicians here in the U.S. telling Trump he’s not welcome in El Paso. Telling Omar and Tlaib they are not welcome in Israel for supporting a boycott against them is fair game. The American Left already hates Israel anyway, there is nothing to lose at this point.

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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2019, 12:09:59 PM »
I believe it's the law in Israel
You are correct. Not sure why the Count feels Israel should break its own law for 2 powerful people who are using their position to harm them. These wouldn’t be the first 2 to be refused entry.

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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2019, 12:19:10 PM »
Tlaib would still be allowed in if she wants to visit relatives.

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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2019, 12:23:55 PM »
The American Left already hates Israel anyway, there is nothing to lose at this point.
That's simply not true, have you looked at votes for aid to Israel... Israel is one of the most supported votes on both sides of the aisle, but ok. For another thread.
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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2019, 12:24:27 PM »
Tlaib would still be allowed in if she wants to visit relatives.

Yes but I think she would be limited to Yehuda and Shomron and would not be allowed to come back into Israel until her flight back.

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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2019, 12:25:32 PM »
That's simply not true, have you looked at votes for aid to Israel... Israel is one of the most supported votes on both sides of the isle, but ok. For another thread.

Their voting has slowly changed and the super left definitely do not support Israel as of now. AOC/Thalib/Rashida and a bunch of others have not voted to support Israel in Congress.

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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2019, 12:33:19 PM »
In case they make it and some1 wants to be on their flight.
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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2019, 12:39:06 PM »
In case they make it and some1 wants to be on their flight.

They really wrote to Palestine? But they are landing in Tel Aviv? So is Tel Aviv now Palestine?

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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2019, 12:40:31 PM »
In case they make it and some1 wants to be on their flight.
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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2019, 12:50:37 PM »
Their voting has slowly changed and the super left definitely do not support Israel as of now. AOC/Thalib/Rashida and a bunch of others have not voted to support Israel in Congress.
Ok so you agree the person I was responding to was wrong.

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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2019, 12:51:52 PM »
Not in the political climate we currently live in. We already have elected politicians here in the U.S. telling Trump he’s not welcome in El Paso. Telling Omar and Tlaib they are not welcome in Israel for supporting a boycott against them is fair game. The American Left already hates Israel anyway, there is nothing to lose at this point.
Ya ya ya, poor Israel. Everyone hates them. The ones that hate them the most is the white nationalist. We have a persistent that enables the WS.
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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2019, 12:52:00 PM »
Going to throw my $0.02 in here:

- Israel has banned several BDS and anti-Israeli 'activists' before, so I don't think this move is unprecedented.

- IMHO, I personally think that banning them isn't a good idea. I can't imagine that anything happens where allowing them into the country would materially change their position, and while yes, there is an opportunity for them to grandstand, there is also an opportunity for them to put their own feet in their own mouths which can then be used against them in future campaigns. I also think if Bibi invites them to meet with the knesset, or in the PM residence, and they refuse, they're the ones who look bad and not him.

- While the progressives running for President have made it clear that very few (if any) of them are friends of Israel, the Anti-BDS resolution that passed a few weeks ago received about 95% of the vote in congress (even Ayanna Pressley, who is part of the 'squad' broke with Tlaib and Omar and voted in favor of it). So while there is reason to believe that support for Israel is eroding, it's not gone yet.

- As others opine banning them enables Bibi to play to his base right before an election, and enables them to play to their base. If Bib wants to appeal to voters in play for the upcoming election, he *could* invite them, and expect them to deny the invite. For them - there is very little they could do in this situation that loses them credibility with their base, for bibi, allowing them in erodes his credibility with his base.


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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2019, 12:53:41 PM »
Ya ya ya, poor Israel. Everyone hates them. The ones that hate them the most is the white nationalist. We have a persistent that enables the WS.

There is nothing that all of the white nationalists want more is to have all of the Jews go back to Israel :)

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Re: Israel banning Tlaib and Omar!
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2019, 12:54:07 PM »
You are correct. Not sure why the Count feels Israel should break its own law for 2 powerful people who are using their position to harm them. These wouldn’t be the first 2 to be refused entry.
They are picking sides in a US political fight. If you feel that is the correct thing to do then I will surely quote this post when the tide turns.
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