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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #405 on: January 01, 2020, 11:02:22 PM »
No, some planes were flying right above, including that Lufthansa plane.
Perhaps that was after the dancing (which I left after that)...
To some, the event commenced when dancing was over...

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #406 on: January 01, 2020, 11:02:49 PM »
To me this event was very disappointing to say the least. Long uninteresting speeches in freezing cold weather with no food and barely any drinks I wonder how people survived there for so long. They should get some Heimishe chevre to run the show...
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #407 on: January 01, 2020, 11:09:15 PM »
With regard to the cold weather, I'm not sure why that disappointed you. We're you expecting 65 degrees in January? How would the organizers control that exactly? We're you expecting food that wasn't advertised? Could you not bring your own food. Obviously, the quality of the speeches is subjective, but from what I've heard, most thought that at least a few of the speeches were inspiring/interesting.

Regarding the weather Iím obviously not blaming the organizers to be manipulating the weather Putin style but I donít get why they would make an outdoor even in NJ on January 1... and I think that is the primary reason why so many seats were empty.

Regarding the speeches granted some were very nice (Rí Schiff for example) but overal it is a super long event with many long speeches which donít fit such a grand scale event. There are many good speakers that can get a crowd excited and inspired

Also Iím not sure how it was at the stadium but on the broadcast the music presentation was really not amazing to say the least. Looked like they asked them to sing 5 minutes before with no prep

I would say that it wouldíve been a great event if it wouldíve been a 150 people Siyum in Lakewood but when you want to make an event for 10ís of thousands of people you got to come from a different angle.

Itís amazing to see so many Yidden coming together but the energy couldíve been taken to another level
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #408 on: January 01, 2020, 11:11:49 PM »
What about the BA 777 and the SAS A330?
My point was that Lufthansa is Germany's flag carrier (I'm not saying they are nazis) it was a strong message that klal yisroel is as strong as ever

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #409 on: January 01, 2020, 11:16:35 PM »
Have some thoughts about the siyum with a few critiques.

First of all, the actual siyum (by an audibly emotional R' Shmuel) followed by the singing and dancing of almost 100 THOUSAND (!) Yidden celebrating torah and the kiyum of klal yisroel, was one of the most inspiring and emotionally thrilling events I have ever partaken in . Additionaly, it was a rare moment of tremendous achdus, with everyone dancing in unison, regardless of their background.

It was so moving in fact, that i was left wondering why this element, the achdus that was on display, wasn't highlighted more by the speakers as a theme of the siyum to try to take with us.

Overall i thought Agudah could have done a much better job getting speakers that were more entertaining, especially considering that A. the event was very dragged out (they wanted to make sure it was full for the siyum) and B. The Weather. For example, why not have Rabbi Yoel Gold speak for 20 minutes instead of another monotonous speech by a Rosh Yeshiva (not any disrespect intended) ?

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #410 on: January 01, 2020, 11:17:07 PM »
Regarding the weather Iím obviously not blaming the organizers to be manipulating the weather Putin style but I donít get why they would make an outdoor even in NJ on January 1... and I think that is the primary reason why so many seats were empty.

Regarding the speeches granted some were very nice (Rí Schiff for example) but overal it is a super long event with many long speeches which donít fit such a grand scale event. There are many good speakers that can get a crowd excited and inspired

Also Iím not sure how it was at the stadium but on the broadcast the music presentation was really not amazing to say the least. Looked like they asked them to sing 5 minutes before with no prep

I would say that it wouldíve been a great event if it wouldíve been a 150 people Siyum in Lakewood but when you want to make an event for 10ís of thousands of people you got to come from a different angle.

Itís amazing to see so many Yidden coming together but the energy couldíve been taken to another level

The music of Ani maamin didn't sound well. I dunno it sounded like a bunch of random people were singing.

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #411 on: January 01, 2020, 11:23:06 PM »
Was the sound system clear and understandable where you sat? Where I sat it was so unclear no one in the whole section was able to make out what was being said

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #412 on: January 01, 2020, 11:27:21 PM »
Was the sound system clear and understandable where you sat? Where I sat it was so unclear no one in the whole section was able to make out what was being said

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #413 on: January 01, 2020, 11:27:30 PM »
Regarding the weather Iím obviously not blaming the organizers to be manipulating the weather Putin style but I donít get why they would make an outdoor even in NJ on January 1... and I think that is the primary reason why so many seats were empty.

The Moetzes was asked the question and answered that the event should be held at outdoor Metlife. It's better to be in 1 united outdoor venue together than 5 separate indoor stadiums...
The empty seats you are referring to are not unsold seats but rather belonging to those (like myself) who purchased $600+ seats. Those came with an outdoor and indoor seat. The outdoor seats may have been empty-but that's because most of us were inside.

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #414 on: January 01, 2020, 11:29:16 PM »
The Moetzes was asked the question and answered that the event should be held at outdoor Metlife. It's better to be in 1 united outdoor venue together than 5 separate indoor stadiums...
The empty seats you are referring to are not unsold seats but rather belonging to those (like myself) who purchased $600+ seats. Those came with an outdoor and indoor seat. The outdoor seats may have been empty-but that's because most of us were inside.

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #415 on: January 01, 2020, 11:32:55 PM »
To me this event was very disappointing to say the least. Long uninteresting speeches in freezing cold weather with no food and barely any drinks I wonder how people survived there for so long. They should get some Heimishe chevre to run the show...

I feel bad that it takes more than what took place today to inspire you. Many people find inspiration in even the small moments in life. Today was no small moment. Where do I even start?

To see 90,000 Jews coming together to proclaim that Hashemís Torah is dear to them. To think of not one minyan worth of Jews, but several thousand minyanim all davening to Hashem as together as one. To think of the cumulative hours represented in todayís crowd in 7 1/2 years of toiling and overcoming all obstacles to finish Shas.To see yidden representing thousands of shuls  and perhaps hundreds of communities celebrating not separately in ones own shul like Simchas Torah but all together along with our Gedolim and manhigim, including Rav Shmuel, who learned in the yeshivas of pre-war Europe. To see Rav Dovid Feinstein insisting that Rav Shmuel take the honor of saying the hadran. To think of the holocaust survivors present who having seen the destruction of Torah Jewry were witnessing four generations of mesaymei hashas. To look at the throngs of Jews and imagine what it will look like when moshiach comes. To stand outside after the event and watch unending streams of Yidden cascade down three flights of escalators in an unending torrent and think ďthese are our brothers and sistersĒ. That is unbelievably inspiring.

When someone is inspired he will barely notice the cold and food (think of the Best Buy Black Friday
lines of years past when folks would forgo their meal to line up in the cold on Thanksgiving day for the 5am door busters). When one is uninspired he will then focus on even the slightest discomfort. I pray that you will find a way to focus on all of the moving moments in your life and live a life of inspiration going forward.



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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #416 on: January 01, 2020, 11:39:15 PM »
To see 90,000 Jews coming together to proclaim that Hashemís Torah is dear to them. To think of not one minyan worth of Jews, but several thousand minyanim all davening to Hashem as together as one. To think of the cumulative hours represented in todayís crowd in 7 1/2 years of toiling and overcoming all obstacles to finish Shas.To see yidden representing thousands of shuls  and perhaps hundreds of communities celebrating not separately in ones own shul like Simchas Torah but all together along with our Gedolim and manhigim, including Rav Shmuel, who learned in the yeshivas of pre-war Europe. To see Rav Dovid Feinstein insisting that Rav Shmuel take the honor of saying the hadran. To think of the holocaust survivors present who having seen the destruction of Torah Jewry were witnessing four generations of mesaymei hashas. To look at the throngs of Jews and imagine what it will look like when moshiach comes. To stand outside after the event and watch unending streams of Yidden cascade down three flights of escalators in an unending torrent and think ďthese are our brothers and sistersĒ. That is unbelievably inspiring.

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #417 on: January 01, 2020, 11:40:21 PM »
There sure was a no-fly zone over the actual stadium. You could see all the planes banking away from the stadium airspace.

nope - was a TFR only for UAS (drones) https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_9_1120.html

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #418 on: January 01, 2020, 11:41:38 PM »
I feel bad that it takes more than what took place today to inspire you. Many people find inspiration in even the small moments in life. Today was no small moment. Where do I even start?

To see 90,000 Jews coming together to proclaim that Hashemís Torah is dear to them. To think of not one minyan worth of Jews, but several thousand minyanim all davening to Hashem as together as one. To think of the cumulative hours represented in todayís crowd in 7 1/2 years of toiling and overcoming all obstacles to finish Shas.To see yidden representing thousands of shuls  and perhaps hundreds of communities celebrating not separately in ones own shul like Simchas Torah but all together along with our Gedolim and manhigim, including Rav Shmuel, who learned in the yeshivas of pre-war Europe. To see Rav Dovid Feinstein insisting that Rav Shmuel take the honor of saying the hadran. To think of the holocaust survivors present who having seen the destruction of Torah Jewry were witnessing four generations of mesaymei hashas. To look at the throngs of Jews and imagine what it will look like when moshiach comes. To stand outside after the event and watch unending streams of Yidden cascade down three flights of escalators in an unending torrent and think ďthese are our brothers and sistersĒ. That is unbelievably inspiring.

When someone is inspired he will barely notice the cold and food (think of the Best Buy Black Friday
lines of years past when folks would forgo their meal to line up in the cold on Thanksgiving day for the 5am door busters). When one is uninspired he will then focus on even the slightest discomfort. I pray that you will find a way to focus on all of the moving moments in your life and live a life of inspiration going forward.
You nailed it!! I donít understand how people are so negative and so kvetchy when thereís so much good... this was the by far the most inspiring and heartwarming Place/event Iíve ever been to!!!

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #419 on: January 02, 2020, 12:16:45 AM »
I heard that it was unclear until the end how much music they would be able to include due to the cold. Not easy to play with cold fingers.
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