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Author Topic: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.  (Read 129599 times)

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #520 on: January 02, 2020, 02:08:15 PM »

Constructive criticism can only help.
Unless it is negativity cloaked in righteous constructive criticism, which is generally see-through.   
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #521 on: January 02, 2020, 02:10:01 PM »
Unless it is negativity cloaked in righteous constructive criticism, which is generally see-through.   
Right, but people are afraid to offer suggestions because they don't want to be accused of that.
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #522 on: January 02, 2020, 02:10:52 PM »
@Yehuda57 we need the rest of the top 10 signs you knows this was not a Chabad event  ;D
was
https://twitter.com/shtickydude/status/1212600826579103744?s=20

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #523 on: January 02, 2020, 02:18:26 PM »
Right, but people are afraid to offer suggestions because they don't want to be accused of that.

True. But reading through the last few pages it is clear that most of the negativity is not motivated by a desire for an even better experience.
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #524 on: January 02, 2020, 02:20:35 PM »
True. But reading through the last few pages it is clear that most of the negativity is not motivated by a desire for an even better experience.

Define;

Is the daf purely an agudah thing ? Is the event about the daf or agudah?


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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #525 on: January 02, 2020, 02:21:30 PM »
was
https://twitter.com/shtickydude/status/1212600826579103744?s=20
1 out of 95,000 ? Couldn’t have been. Every reporter, staffer, & cop would’ve been putting it on.

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #527 on: January 02, 2020, 02:27:59 PM »
If you dress in enough warm layers it's really not a big deal at all. Must easier to dress for an event like this in 37 degrees than 97 degrees IMHO.
Not sure any of the cold complainers would have survived kayaking in Antarctica :D
It was not easy. Especially for those of us who were there early. Not moving vs exerting yourself are way different. Was dressed properly in layers and the cold just got to me at one point that I couldnt stay.
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #528 on: January 02, 2020, 02:31:19 PM »
4 hours and 35 minutes in the freezing cold? How did anyone think that was a good idea?

Why is there no retractable roof?
I know. I can't believe the Agudah didn't take this into account when they built it! 8)
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #529 on: January 02, 2020, 02:31:35 PM »
Several Bars/Stores were converted to warm up rooms, as they were enclosed and heated.

What?!? Where? Why wasn't is publicized? :'( I wouldn't have left if I was able to properly warm up
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #530 on: January 02, 2020, 02:31:53 PM »
Define;

Is the daf purely an agudah thing ? Is the event about the daf or agudah?

I never thought about that question.

But now that you ask, as per Wikipedia, The novel idea of Jews in all parts of the world studying the same daf each day, with the goal of completing the entire Talmud, was first proposed in a World Agudath Israel publication in December 1920 (Kislev 5681) Digleinu, the voice of Zeirei Agudath Israel,[7] by Rabbi Moshe Menachem Mendel Spivak[8][9], and was put forth at the First World Congress of Agudath Israel which took place in Vienna starting from Elul 3, 5683 / August 15, 1923 and which lasted for ten days.[10] The proposal for the study of Daf Hayomi was made on Elul 7 or 9, 5683 (August 19 or 21, 1923)[11] by Rabbi Meir Shapiro, then Rav of Sanok, Poland, and future rosh yeshiva of Yeshivas Chachmei Lublin and the resolution was adopted on Elul 10, 5683.

So, while nobody has any rights to Limud Hatorah, it does make sense that they would spearhead it.
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #531 on: January 02, 2020, 02:32:42 PM »
Define;

Is the daf purely an agudah thing ? Is the event about the daf or agudah?
The Daf is a Klal thing that was proposed by Rav Meir Shapiro who was an Agudist. So it became Agudah's.
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #532 on: January 02, 2020, 02:32:58 PM »
It was not easy. Especially for those of us who were there early. Not moving vs exerting yourself are way different. Was dressed properly in layers and the cold just got to me at one point that I couldnt stay.
Then you didn't have enough or the proper layers on IMHO.
It was 37, not -7. Even if you're sitting still, you can tolerate that just fine with enough and the proper layering.
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #533 on: January 02, 2020, 02:33:22 PM »
I know. I can't believe the Agudah didn't take this into account when they built it! 8)
BTW Tisch said he built it for the Siyum...  ;)
(and for those following the daf see A"Z 2b)

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #534 on: January 02, 2020, 02:34:10 PM »
Then you didn't have enough or the proper layers on IMHO.
It was 37, not -7. Even if you're sitting still, you can tolerate that just fine with enough and the proper layering.
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forget Antarctica how did you do Svalbard

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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #535 on: January 02, 2020, 02:34:38 PM »
It was not easy. Especially for those of us who were there early. Not moving vs exerting yourself are way different. Was dressed properly in layers and the cold just got to me at one point that I couldnt stay.

Same! Once the chill came in the bones, there was nothing to do. Like I said a bit up thread if only there was a place to warm up.
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #536 on: January 02, 2020, 02:34:55 PM »
What?!? Where? Why wasn't is publicized? :'( I wouldn't have left if I was able to properly warm up
My son tried to warm up at the one at 315 and he just couldnt. We had to leave before the actual siyum while Rav Schiff was speaking. Watched it on the livestream (Thanks @Dan for the link) in the car. I'm still cold.
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #538 on: January 02, 2020, 02:37:29 PM »
forget Antarctica how did you do Svalbard
13 hours on a snowmobile in a day definitely takes a physical toll. But with good warm layering you can be just fine with the temperature and wind. You can't just go out in the cold for extended periods of time and expect to tolerate it without the right gear.
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Re: The 13th Global Siyum Hashas of Daf YomiAgudath Israel of America.
« Reply #539 on: January 02, 2020, 02:37:59 PM »
Then you didn't have enough or the proper layers on IMHO.
It was 37, not -7. Even if you're sitting still, you can tolerate that just fine with enough and the proper layering.
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It was 37 at 1pm, maybe, and there was wind. Plenty of proper layers. Staff with experience said it was cold.
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