"Why Does No One Care About Violence Against Orthodox Jews?" (Interesting Article Split)

[CountValentine]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pro-gun-parkland-survivor-says-harvard-rescinded-offer-over-offensive-n1018441
You are not getting into Harvard with your racist and misogynist comments and views. On the flip side you are a perfect candidate to become president.

[Yehuda57]

It was a simple question. Your non-answer says it all.

Against better judgement, here goes:

Oy, read the article again before talking to anyone else about reading comprehension.

Really? Who was the anyone else you are referring to in this comment?

Indeed, the "anyone else" is [current] gingyguy. But I was not saying anything about his *comment*, let alone defending it. I was saying that *you* failed to comprehend the primary points of the piece if that was your response, which made it ironic that you used *that* (reading comprehension) criticism.

[ExGingi]

Which point of the article are you talking about since it makes several points?

The main point which is right there in the title (and the link).

Antisemitism against "The Jew's Jews" (to use a term from the article) is highly prevalent (possibly more so than the other bias crimes that you mention, if talking in ratios) yet I challenge you to find even 1 article in the MSM about it, for every 100 (or 1,000, or more) article about hate crimes against blacks, LGBT, women, Hispanics, or any other group.

[CountValentine]

Against better judgement, here goes:
 Indeed, the "anyone else" is [current] gingyguy.

Thank you!!!

[CountValentine]

Antisemitism against "The Jew's Jews" (to use a term from the article) is highly prevalent...

Where did I disagree with this?
My point was the same can be said against other minorities. If you all would get out more you would see it in real time instead of relying on news articles.

[ExGingi]

Where did I disagree with this?
My point was the same can be said against other minorities. If you all would get out more you would see it in real time instead of relying on news articles.

Where's that meme of something that flew right over your head?

[CountValentine]

Where's that meme of something that flew right over your head?

If you would get out more you would know where to look. 

[Yehuda57]

I myself have written about this at length before here and at The Forward.

This is last week:
https://twitter.com/JonahPesner/status/1165681800015941632

That's one of the leaders of the Reform movement, arguably the largest group of Jews in the country, going on a show with an unrepentant anti-Semite with Jewish blood on his hands.

This is the head of the ADL, who's job description is literally to combat anti-Semitism also whitewashing the anti-Semite:

https://twitter.com/JGreenblattADL/status/1166504080723853312

This is because the victims are A) not the right kind of Jews. b) the perpetrators are not the right kind of anti-Semites.

This is me a couple of weeks ago:
https://twitter.com/Squilled/status/1161113163758231552

This happens on a daily basis. I probably only tweeted that one because I was scrolling through Twitter when it happened. It's no big deal to get cursed at, right? But this is my neighbor:

https://twitter.com/BennysMusic/status/1166388515044806657

I could just as easily have been attacked.

Many DDFers live in Rockland County where this is going on:

https://twitter.com/DraftRyan2016/status/1166877503732015105

And the same for Tom's River/Lakewood and many other places.

You like to say words matter. Oftentimes silence matters more.

[aygart]

If you would get out more you would know where to look. 

Maybe just maybe YOU are the one not understanding things over here. Maybe YOU need to get out more.

[ExGingi]

While on the topic of antisemitism, my son who got back from spending about a month in various Ukranian towns said the other day "thank G-d for antisemitism!".

When we all looked at him in puzzlement, he recalled how upon arriving at a certain town, a lady screamed at him and his partner "go back to Israel, this town has no place for Jews". My son responded by telling her that prior to WWII this town was 70% Jewish, and you are living on top of the blood of thousands of Jews that were murdered and their property stolen.

When he got to repeat that story to even the most disenfranchised Jew in the town, it brought about a Jewish awakening, prompting them to want to do a mitzvah to show their Jewishness. The other good thing about antisemitism is, that it protects from assimilation.

[CountValentine]

Maybe just maybe YOU are the one not understanding things over here. Maybe YOU need to get out more.

It is possible but highly unlikely. Those growing up in sheltered communities are less aware of what is going on outside their community. I know no one likes to hear that but facts are facts.

[ExGingi]

If you would get out more you would know where to look. 

Maybe just maybe YOU are the one not understanding things over here. Maybe YOU need to stop with your mantra of "get out more" and look with open eyes and an open mind at what is presented right in front of you in the most clear fashion.

FTFY

[ExGingi]

It is possible but highly unlikely. Those growing up in sheltered communities are less aware of what is going on outside their community. I know no one likes to hear that but facts are facts.

OK. So let's get some facts from the one that is out there so much. Please provide some MSM or tweets from the people "out there" that decry the kind of antisemitism we are talking about.

PUOSU!

[aygart]

It is possible but highly unlikely. Those growing up in sheltered communities are less aware of what is going on outside their community. I know no one likes to hear that but facts are facts.

Okay, but what do those outside that sheltered community know about what happens within?

[CountValentine]

OK. So let's get some facts from the one that is out there so much. Please provide some MSM or tweets from the people "out there" that decry the kind of antisemitism we are talking about.

PUOSU!

How about comments from me? Would that suffice?
My original point and still is that violence against all minorities do not get the outcry they deserve. Translation: Nobody cares.
This position is trying to be twisted into I don't believe this is happening against Jews.

[CountValentine]

Okay, but what do those outside that sheltered community know about what happens within?

Maybe because they actually see what is happening.
Remember the case about the elderly Jewish man that was beat up for no reason. The guy got out of his car and just went after him. Some of us actually learn by listening. 

[ExGingi]

How about comments from me? Would that suffice?
My original point and still is that violence against all minorities do not get the outcry they deserve. Translation: Nobody cares.
This position is trying to be twisted into I don't believe this is happening against Jews.

Go back to reading comprehension 101 (or just take a breather, relax, and try to reread what was written in the article and here with a clear mind).

[CountValentine]

Go back to reading comprehension 101 (or just take a breather, relax, and try to reread what was written in the article and here with a clear mind).

The article has several points. One of which is these crimes are not getting the outcry they deserve. Do you disagree?

[aygart]

How about comments from me? Would that suffice?
My original point and still is that violence against all minorities do not get the outcry they deserve. Translation: Nobody cares.
This position is trying to be twisted into I don't believe this is happening against Jews.

Except that there are constantly MSM articles etc about racism and many other forms of bigotry but not about this one.

[Dan]

I myself have written about this at length before here and at The Forward.

This is last week:
https://twitter.com/JonahPesner/status/1165681800015941632

That's one of the leaders of the Reform movement, arguably the largest group of Jews in the country, going on a show with an unrepentant anti-Semite with Jewish blood on his hands.

This is the head of the ADL, who's job description is literally to combat anti-Semitism also whitewashing the anti-Semite:

https://twitter.com/JGreenblattADL/status/1166504080723853312

This is because the victims are A) not the right kind of Jews. b) the perpetrators are not the right kind of anti-Semites.

This is me a couple of weeks ago:
https://twitter.com/Squilled/status/1161113163758231552

This happens on a daily basis. I probably only tweeted that one because I was scrolling through Twitter when it happened. It's no big deal to get cursed at, right? But this is my neighbor:

https://twitter.com/BennysMusic/status/1166388515044806657

I could just as easily have been attacked.

Many DDFers live in Rockland County where this is going on:

https://twitter.com/DraftRyan2016/status/1166877503732015105

And the same for Tom's River/Lakewood and many other places.

You like to say words matter. Oftentimes silence matters more.

Terrifying. This is why we all have passports.