"Why Does No One Care About Violence Against Orthodox Jews?" (Interesting Article Split)

[CountValentine]

I'll spoonfeed you, young grasshopper
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/31/nyregion/jewish-bias-safety-nyc.html

ETA: Just for you I tried to read the article now but it is behind a paywall.

...and please to ALL of you. Come up with your own lines. 

[CountValentine]

I was able to read the NYT article thanks to a member here. What is the question?

[whYME]

What is the question?

No question, he's just making a point.

The NYT basically admitted that despite there being a much sharper increase in hate crimes against Jews than against other minorities or protected classes, they don't report it because it (Jews being attacked by blacks etc rather than white supremacists) doesn't fit their narrative (white supremacists emboldened by Trump attacking brown people.)

[CountValentine]

For the purposes of anti-Semitisim, just think of it as "visibly Jewish".

Ultra Orthodox is a slur, but that's a whole nother discussion

Would be OK if I use this for " PC Friday question of the day"?

[ExGingi]

Don't confuse a fact with an excuse.
I use to watch Hannity to see what the Kool-Aid drinkers here would post next. I no longer watch him.
I use to read BS every now and then but it just got old.

Honestly, this thread is becoming worse than BS. I strongly suggest you take a break and decide if and when you want to come back after attempting to see the perspective everyone else is seeing here.

[CountValentine]

No question, he's just making a point.

Then maybe he should leave out loaded words like "admitted".

[CountValentine]

Honestly, this thread is becoming worse than BS. I strongly suggest you take a break and decide if and when you want to come back after attempting to see the perspective everyone else is seeing here.

Most of us are on the same page now. You on the other hand...

[whYME]

Then maybe he should leave out loaded words like "admitted".

i.e. you're not disputing his point, you just think he should've worded it differently?

[CountValentine]

i.e. you're not disputing his point, you just think he should've worded it differently?

I read the NYT article. I see nothing that is wrong. I am fully aware of the type of things that are happening. I even posted sometime ago about a Jewish man that was shot and killed for no reason on the northside of Chicago. I knew about it because it was all over the news.
The left has an agenda and they slant their news that way. The right does the same thing.

[whYME]

I read the NYT article. I see nothing that is wrong. I am fully aware of the type of things that are happening. I even posted sometime ago about a Jewish man that was shot and killed for no reason on the northside of Chicago. I knew about it because it was all over the news.
The left has an agenda and they slant their news that way. The right does the same thing.

So just to clarify, is your argument here that what everyone here is saying is true, that the media basically ignores attacks against Jews but it's all cool because the media is all biased anyways?

Or are you saying that other groups are getting attacked at the same rate as Jews and the media is actually reporting attacks against Jews at the same rate as they report others?

Or is there another option I'm missing?

[CountValentine]

Or are you saying that other groups are getting attacked at the same rate as Jews and the media is actually reporting attacks against Jews at the same rate as they report others?

Close. Other minorities are being attacked. What rate it is being reported/covered I have no idea.
My original point was and still is ALL this violence against minorities is underreported. It seems no one cares.

[aygart]

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https://twitter.com/Laura_E_Adkins/status/1166413059860176902

[aygart]

https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/in-2019-more-than-half-of-reported-hate-crimes-were-anti-jewish-says-nypd

Sixty-nine – or 37 percent – of 2018’s anti-Jewish hate crime reports resulted in an arrest. Forty of the alleged perpetrators were white, 25 were black, two were Hispanic and two were Asian.

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[CountValentine]

A ton of statistics. What's the bottom line?

[whYME]

What rate it is being reported/covered I have no idea.

My original point was and still is ALL this violence against minorities is underreported. It seems no one cares.

Umm... I think you need to pick a lane here.

[CountValentine]

Umm... I think you need to pick a lane here.

Same lane. Hate crimes are under covered and underreported for all minorities. AFAIK no one disagrees with that, do you? Now at what rate is subject to debate. Many dismiss the FBI stats because it only covers reported hate crimes (not their fault).

[Yehuda57]

A ton of statistics. What's the bottom line?

In NYC, Jews are the victims of bias crimes more than any other group, and often more than all other groups combined.

[aygart]

A ton of statistics. What's the bottom line?

1. that while Jews are about half the percentage of the NYC population than both blacks and Hispanics (or a quarter compared to the two groups combined) they were the victims of about 60% of the reported bias incidents.
2. Contrary to what some have written here (and I incorrectly went along with based on my anecdotal experiences), ~58% arrested were whites even though they only comprise ~35% of the population.

[CountValentine]

In NYC, Jews are the victims of bias crimes more than any other group, and often more than all other groups combined.

Ok we are in agreement.

[aygart]

In NYC, Jews are the victims of bias crimes more than any other group, and often more than all other groups combined.

Going through her thread you will see that the majority of bias incidents in NYC have been very consistently anti-semitic.