Author Topic: "Why Does No One Care About Violence Against Orthodox Jews?" (Interesting Article Split)  (Read 20977 times)

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1. that while Jews are about half the percentage of the NYC population than both blacks and Hispanics (or a quarter compared to the two groups combined) they were the victims of about 60% of the reported bias incidents.
2. Contrary to what some have written here (and I incorrectly went along with based on my anecdotal experiences), ~58% arrested were whites even though they only comprise ~35% of the population.
So Jews in NYC are targeted more than the other groups. Ok we are all in agreement on that.
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So YOU ALL were jumping on me because you thought I didn't know Jews were the biggest target in NYC? Or worse yet you thought I was disputing it?
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So YOU ALL were jumping on me because you thought I didn't know Jews were the biggest target in NYC? Or worse yet you thought I was disputing it?
No. I posted an article about anti-Semitism being under-reported by the media and being all but ignored by the general population, especially those who do care and speak up about all other bias crimes.

Then you went and All Lives Mattered it.

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2. Contrary to what some have written here (and I incorrectly went along with based on my anecdotal experiences), ~58% arrested were whites even though they only comprise ~35% of the population.
I must admit I was pretty surprised to see that as well.

1. FWIW, this is talking about arrests, not all perps, that may or may not be indicative of the overall stats.
2. I'm really curious to see what and where all these various incidents were. I can't remember hearing of a single story of a violent attack against a chassidic Jew in Brooklyn where the perp was white. (unless Arabs are being considered white here? there were definitely some of those.)

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No. I posted an article about anti-Semitism being under-reported by the media and being all but ignored by the general population, especially those who do care and speak up about all other bias crimes.

Then you went and All Lives Mattered it.
You did post the article and I addressed one point of it. YOU ALL went nuts and ignored the point I was making. Instead of asking for a clarification you just went on to assume. Either way it doesn't matter as I am used to 100 against 1.
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No. I posted an article about anti-Semitism being under-reported by the media and being all but ignored by the general population, especially those who do care and speak up about all other bias crimes.

Then you went and All Lives Mattered it.

Excellent Cliff notes for this thread.
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Suit yourself.
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Excellent Cliff notes for this thread.
Great contribution as usual.
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You did post the article and I addressed one point of it. YOU ALL went nuts and ignored the point I was making. Instead of asking for a clarification you just went on to assume. Either way it doesn't matter as I am used to 100 against 1.

The equivalent of addressing DJT hairstyle to the exclusion of anything else about his style and leadership of this country.
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The equivalent of addressing DJT hairstyle to the exclusion of anything else about his style and leadership of this country.
The problem with you and many here is you can't address one item because then you can't bob and weave.
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for those here trying to understand other points of view. can you speak non-binary?

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for those here trying to understand other points of view. can you speak non-binary?
...or regular English would help.  :)
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The equivalent of addressing DJT hairstyle to the exclusion of anything else about his style and leadership of this country.

OK. Let me rephrase this with a famous Jewish joke.

The Shlemiel was walking with a hot bowl of soup, and hit the Shlemazel, then came the Nudnik and asked if it was chicken soup or mushroom-barley soup.
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for those here trying to understand other points of view. can you speak non-binary?

That wasn't in binary, more like decimal (or hexadecimal if you want).

We DON'T all have passports because of fear of antisemitism, on two counts: 1. Passports won't help. 2. We have plenty of other reasons for having passports.
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1. Passports won't help.
What is your basis for this? History says otherwise.
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We DON'T all have passports because of fear of antisemitism, on two counts: 1. Passports won't help. 2. We have plenty of other reasons for having passports.
Another Friday question but I think the other one is better.
Why were some members encouraging me to use "ultra-orthodox" when some members feel it is a slur.  Hmmmmmm!
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Another Friday question but I think the other one is better.
Why were some members encouraging me to use "orthodox" when some members feel it is a slur.  Hmmmmmm!
Probably the same reason some will describe themselves with the N word while others consider it a slur.
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Probably the same reason some will describe themselves with the N word while others consider it a slur.
That's slur either way.
ETA: I forgot "ultra" in the post.
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That's slur either way.
ETA: I forgot "ultra" in the post.

Okay. Honestly I am not sure why it would be considered to be a slur. I guess the context can make it one but that can be for many benign terms.
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Okay. Honestly I am not sure why it would be considered to be a slur. I guess the context can make it one but that can be for many benign terms.
Will give my view. They want to make a distinction form other religious Jews. It will not be a favorable one for other Jews.
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