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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1580 on: September 28, 2022, 03:53:14 PM »
So @jj1000 should have been more specific that there's singing at Hebrew Academies and Synagogues. But most people on DDF that don't daven in a Chabad minyan don't sing during אבינו מלכנו.
Go make a poll.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1581 on: September 28, 2022, 03:54:24 PM »
What do people sing for Hayom Haras Olam? Took me 'til last night to realize this:
https://twitter.com/EliLebowicz/status/1574938739205234690

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1582 on: September 28, 2022, 03:55:30 PM »
So @jj1000 should have been more specific that there's singing at Hebrew Academies and Synagogues. But most people on DDF that don't daven in a Chabad minyan don't sing during אבינו מלכנו.
I would venture a guess that this is correct. Never heard of anyone singing by AM.
What do people sing for Hayom Haras Olam? Took me 'til last night to realize this:
https://twitter.com/EliLebowicz/status/1574938739205234690

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1583 on: September 28, 2022, 03:58:17 PM »
Go make a poll.

I don't know how to. And I don't see any need.

While I live in a bubble, and have probably been to less shuls than you have been to, I am a real first generation צוגעקומענער, so I have some knowledge of what goes on outside my bubble. I didn't find out in recent years on DDF that in many places (Yeshivish?) they make kiddush before תקיעות.

I am sure @Something Fishy has been to more shuls than I have, and he says he never heard of singing any part of אבינו מלכנו.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1584 on: September 28, 2022, 04:02:21 PM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1585 on: September 28, 2022, 04:03:45 PM »
It's true. I daven in sheeeel, not a synagogue.

In Lakewood it is only in a Bais Medrash.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1586 on: September 28, 2022, 04:04:28 PM »
What do people sing for Hayom Haras Olam? Took me 'til last night to realize this:
https://twitter.com/EliLebowicz/status/1574938739205234690

🤯

But also, how does this make sense if nobody sings the last line of AM?
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1587 on: September 28, 2022, 04:10:40 PM »
Go make a poll.

Maybe the poll should ask who is more confined to their bubble?
a. @ExGingi
b. @jj1000
c. @Dan
d. @Something Fishy
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1588 on: September 28, 2022, 04:12:09 PM »
🤯

But also, how does this make sense if nobody sings the last line of AM?

Just because people don't sing it during davening doesn't mean they don't know the tune. We don't sing that AM but we do use the tune for hayom haras olam

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1589 on: September 28, 2022, 04:13:25 PM »
🤯

But also, how does this make sense if nobody sings the last line of AM?
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1590 on: September 28, 2022, 04:14:27 PM »
Just because people don't sing it during davening doesn't mean they don't know the tune. We don't sing that AM but we do use the tune for hayom haras olam

OMG it just hit me!

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1591 on: September 28, 2022, 04:17:20 PM »
OMG it just hit me!

Mind = blown.
Lol.

Bonus points if someone posts who the composer was.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1592 on: September 28, 2022, 04:19:52 PM »
Lol.

Bonus points if someone posts who the composer was.

Based on my knowledge of Chabad, it's either the Alter Rebbe, R' Hiller Particher, or like Napoleon.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1593 on: September 28, 2022, 04:23:02 PM »
Based on my knowledge of Chabad, it's either the Alter Rebbe, R' Hiller Particher, or like Napoleon.
Lol.

Who said it's Chabad?

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1594 on: September 28, 2022, 04:23:24 PM »
Lol.

Bonus points if someone posts who the composer was.
Based on my knowledge of Chabad, it's either the Alter Rebbe, R' Hiller Particher, or like Napoleon.
It's a Chabad tune??
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1595 on: September 28, 2022, 04:26:39 PM »
Take a survey of people from Lakewood, Williamsburg, Monsey, KJ, JLM, RBS, BB, etc. Is singing (any line out of אבינו מלכנו) a common practice?

@Something Fishy
@aygart
@EliJelly
@TimT
@yfr bachur
@rbs-g1.5

Never seen it. Not in the shul I grew up in in flatbush, not in yeshiva in the us, not in the mir (main minyan - but i seriously doubt any other mir minyan sings it)

In Mir we just say all of them (w/o waiting for the chazan for any line) and when done the chazan goes straight into kaddish - no repition of the final AM -  EXCEPT for neilah when it is all said line by line - as do many israeli minyanim that Duchan before shkiya and need to avoid finishing before the end of the taanis.


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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1596 on: September 28, 2022, 04:27:32 PM »
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Can't post this without the video link.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1597 on: September 28, 2022, 04:32:43 PM »
It's a Chabad tune??
Almost definitely not.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1598 on: September 28, 2022, 04:33:36 PM »
Almost definitely not.
Didn't think so.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1599 on: September 28, 2022, 04:36:55 PM »
Based on my knowledge of Chabad, it's either the Alter Rebbe, R' Hiller Particher, or like Napoleon.

Still got a LOL even though it's not a Chabad tune