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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1660 on: September 28, 2022, 09:14:14 PM »
Really?? The real thing is just getting started, twice as long! What's the reason for Chabad not saying on עשי׳׳ת?
https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/19112/minhag-of-saying-selichos-only-before-rosh-hashanah

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1661 on: September 28, 2022, 09:17:43 PM »
https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/19112/minhag-of-saying-selichos-only-before-rosh-hashanah

I'll wait for a Chabdnik to give more insight and when this started. There is much more emphasis in Shulchan Oruch and poskim to say on עשי׳׳ת than before.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1662 on: September 28, 2022, 09:26:17 PM »
There is much more emphasis in Shulchan Oruch and poskim to say on עשי׳׳ת than before.
Understatement.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1663 on: September 28, 2022, 09:30:31 PM »
Really?? The real thing is just getting started, twice as long! What's the reason for Chabad not saying on עשי׳׳ת?
I'm surprised you didn't know this. Also, by the Polishe it's not really longer.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1664 on: September 28, 2022, 09:36:14 PM »
I'm surprised you didn't know this. Also, by the Polishe it's not really longer.

I probably picked it up already on this very thread but I keep forgetting, this is literally going in circles :)

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1665 on: September 28, 2022, 11:47:43 PM »
I'm not about to throw anyone in my shul under the bus :-)

It’s impossible to throw Kratz under the bus :P
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1666 on: September 29, 2022, 12:00:34 AM »
Based on my knowledge of Chabad, it's either the Alter Rebbe, R' Hiller Particher, or like Napoleon.

Even ExGingi wouldn’t consider Napoleon a Lubavitcher :P
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1667 on: September 29, 2022, 12:04:15 AM »
It’s impossible to throw Kratz under the bus :P
he is the bus

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1668 on: September 29, 2022, 12:05:17 AM »
Even ExGingi wouldn’t consider Napoleon a Lubavitcher :P

Yup. Needs to be Jewish (though there might be some exceptions, such as the late Charles P. Sifton).
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1669 on: September 29, 2022, 12:10:38 AM »
Even ExGingi wouldn’t consider Napoleon a Lubavitcher :P

The dude is clearly a mushroom, at the very least.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1670 on: September 29, 2022, 12:13:23 AM »
The dude is clearly a mushroom, at the very least.

I knew I should never have said anything.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1671 on: September 29, 2022, 12:16:42 AM »
I'll wait for a Chabdnik to give more insight and when this started. There is much more emphasis in Shulchan Oruch and poskim to say on עשי׳׳ת than before.


And

https://www.chabad.org/therebbe/letters/default_cdo/aid/1966419/jewish/Why-Chabad-Dont-Say-Selichot-Between-Rosh-Hashana-and-Yom-Kippur.htm

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1672 on: September 29, 2022, 05:26:21 AM »
So, how about being done with slichos until Teves :D
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1673 on: September 30, 2022, 11:12:03 AM »
Guy with trimmed beard asks me after shachris this morning, "Uh, did I miss slichos, what time was it supposed to start?"
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1674 on: September 30, 2022, 11:52:34 AM »
Guy with trimmed beard asks me after shachris this morning, "Uh, did I miss slichos, what time was it supposed to start?"
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You're omitting the punchline, what was his reaction like when you said slichos is over already? ;)

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1675 on: September 30, 2022, 11:55:12 AM »
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1676 on: September 30, 2022, 11:57:09 AM »
You're omitting the punchline, what was his reaction like when you said slichos is over already? ;)
Sadly, his jaw may have broken when it hit the concrete.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1678 on: October 14, 2022, 11:17:44 AM »
What I do not understand about this eating in the sukah thing is that the way Iv'e seen this explained is that:
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/4128852/jewish/Why-Stay-in-the-Sukkah-When-It-is-Raining.htm
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The weather may be a little unpleasant, it may be a little squashy in there, and your palm allergy may be flaring up...but the inner serenity, the love and feeling of connection with those around you, the sense of being embraced by G‑d—all that should override any physical discomfort.
Yet people in this thread have complained that it is no fun etc. If they are in fact bothered, doesn't that negate the whole explanation of why they eat outside? Or more accurately why they would be "allowed" to eat outside? Or is the complaints just the physical aspects which are truthfully outweighed by the sheer joy?
Isn't it a little difficult to employ this minhag as a one size fits all when it would seem to necessitate a pre existing spiritual level in order to be halachikly compliant?
Is this addressed anywhere? I would appreciate a link.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1679 on: October 14, 2022, 11:49:01 AM »
What I do not understand about this eating in the sukah thing is that the way Iv'e seen this explained is that:
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/4128852/jewish/Why-Stay-in-the-Sukkah-When-It-is-Raining.htmYet people in this thread have complained that it is no fun etc. If they are in fact bothered, doesn't that negate the whole explanation of why they eat outside? Or more accurately why they would be "allowed" to eat outside? Or is the complaints just the physical aspects which are truthfully outweighed by the sheer joy?
Isn't it a little difficult to employ this minhag as a one size fits all when it would seem to necessitate a pre existing spiritual level in order to be halachikly compliant?
Is this addressed anywhere? I would appreciate a link.

This should be easy to understand. People are willing to endure pain, suffering, hardship and difficulties in pursuing a goal. The pleasure of reaching the goal makes the hardships of getting there meaningless. Or on a deeper level, the greater the hardship the greater the pleasure.

Wouldn't you be willing to endure hardships in order to get to אנא ומלכא בלחודוהי?  :P

 
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