Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons

[Ergel]

i have a hard time finding only 3 meshulashim...

Who says they all need to be meshulash?
But I also really have a problem finding meshulashim.
I hate the bags, can't tell a thing. And the "kulo chazon ish* one are rarely any better

[Ergel]

Interesting. And I am sure there is a hesber al pi sod?

[Dan]

Chesed over gevura would be my guess.

[Ergel]

Chesed over gevura would be my guess.

And how do people choose how many to use? Family minhag?

[Dan]

and sleeping

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/92423/jewish/Sukkos.htm

[Dan]

And how do people choose how many to use? Family minhag?

They do the research and decide what they feel is appropriate and what they can afford. Or ask their Rov/Mashpiah.

My father was not Chabad-raised though so I may be wrong here.

[churnbabychurn]

Even you must admit that that's a little far fetched.
supposedly the rebbeh was holier than the Shulchan oruch because he felt the pain, fine.  But that chassidim should disregard a mitzvah mideorayso because of the fadimyomdikeh pain that they are supposed to feel because they don't feel a pain that only their rebbeh felt.? 
The only tzar you guys have is that the rebbeh would 'frown'  upon you for doing the mitzvah. But why would he, didn't he realize that no one else ever felt this tzar of the kedusha besides him so why would his chassidim?

[HP58]

Even you must admit that that's a little far fetched.
supposedly the rebbeh was holier than the Shulchan oruch because he felt the pain, fine.  But that chassidim should disregard a mitzvah mideorayso because of the fadimyomdikeh pain that they are supposed to feel because they don't feel a pain that only their rebbeh felt.? 
The only tzar you guys have is that the rebbeh would 'frown'  upon you for doing the mitzvah. But why would he, didn't he realize that no one else ever felt this tzar of the kedusha besides him so why would his chassidim?

+1 Have been wondering the same for a while...

[Dan]

As the Rosh used to farbrang, we're in actual pain that we're not in pain that we're not in pain that we're not in pain that we're not in pain...

[HP58]

LOL

[churnbabychurn]

It's cute but we're talking about a mitzvahs aseh mideorayso, not an obscure minhag that can be joked away.
#postingfromaveryholybed

[Dan]

I don't see the joke. Though I do remember the Rosh crying over the subject.
The Rosh (R' Ezra Shochet) was considered an ilui in BMG, Brisk, and Ner Yisroel back in the day. Would have been considered a gadol hador by the "velt" without a doubt had he not joined the dark side...

He has a mind like few others and knows nigleh and chassidus fluently and with an intellect level like perhaps nobody else in the world.
Give him a call and let us know his answer

[HP58]

LOL You really serious? He used 2 cry?! Wow!

[churnbabychurn]

I don't know if you are aware but this topic is the single most powerful kashah on chabad. It was used to discredit the rebbeh.....
Trust me there's no easy answer to this one. 
I shouldn't have even brought it up, I couldn't help it:)

[Ergel]

I don't remember how we pasken-but I thought we pasken mitztaer is only patur if leaving the sukkah will alleviate that tza'ar. The fact that one is pained by not feeling the pain of not feeling the pain... how is that alleviated by leaving the sukkah?

[Dan]

I don't know if you are aware but this topic is the single most powerful kashah on chabad. It was used to discredit the rebbeh.....
Trust me there's no easy answer to this one. 
I shouldn't have even brought it up, I couldn't help it:)

Dude, this dates back centuries before the Rebbe.
If you're honestly interested in an explanation I'd call the Rosh. Not kidding.
If you just want to cause trouble then don't.

[Ergel]

I don't know if you are aware but this topic is the single most powerful kashah on chabad. It was used to discredit the rebbeh.....
Trust me there's no easy answer to this one. 
I shouldn't have even brought it up, I couldn't help it:)

I think you need to figure out a better way to express your views.

[churnbabychurn]

I'm not expressing any views, i made a comment about a minhag and had a little discussion about the background. No harm intended at all.

[dirah]

and sleeping

Even you must admit that that's a little far fetched.
supposedly the rebbeh was holier than the Shulchan oruch because he felt the pain, fine.  But that chassidim should disregard a mitzvah mideorayso because of the fadimyomdikeh pain that they are supposed to feel because they don't feel a pain that only their rebbeh felt.? 
The only tzar you guys have is that the rebbeh would 'frown'  upon you for doing the mitzvah. But why would he, didn't he realize that no one else ever felt this tzar of the kedusha besides him so why would his chassidim?

It's cute but we're talking about a mitzvahs aseh mideorayso, not an obscure minhag that can be joked away.
#postingfromaveryholybed

I don't know if you are aware but this topic is the single most powerful kashah on chabad. It was used to discredit the rebbeh.....
Trust me there's no easy answer to this one. 
I shouldn't have even brought it up, I couldn't help it:)

I don't remember how we pasken-but I thought we pasken mitztaer is only patur if leaving the sukkah will alleviate that tza'ar. The fact that one is pained by not feeling the pain of not feeling the pain... how is that alleviated by leaving the sukkah?

If you are looking for the answer, here it is in Yiddish:
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14952&st=&pgnum=226&hilite=

And in Hebrew:
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=15830&st=&pgnum=64&hilite=

Whereas if you are looking to stir, then this is for you:
http://video.moshiach.ru/dollars/zvi_kaana.wmv

[churnbabychurn]

IIrc it depends, tzar of yetushim vias a choleh. I may be wrong.