Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons

[churnbabychurn]

I think most chassidim have at least token hakofas

[Dan]

Chabad mont pnimious.
We don't do token

1.75 liter single malt at the ready. Who's joining me Wednesday night?

[SamKey]

The real reason Chabad eat in the Sukka while raining is because the gr"a hold while raining it's not a Sukka

[Ergel]

Do you make a leshev when it's raining?

[Dan]

Do you make a leshev when it's raining?

Yes.

[Ergel]

Yes.

Oy

[Dan]

Oy

http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=30510&st=&pgnum=317&hilite=
317-321

[Ergel]

http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=30510&st=&pgnum=317&hilite=
317-321

A single non-chabad source (read rishonim) would be nice

[skyguy918]

How does Chabad deal with the mishna that rain on sukkos is a siman klala etc.?

I'm sure I could search a little and find an answer on the internet, but I figure I'll get a more complete answer from the guys here.

[Achas Veachas]

A single non-chabad source (read rishonim) would be nice

I didn't research the Rishonim, but there are quite a few non-Chabad sources starting at the bottom of this page:
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=30510&st=&pgnum=318

[DovtheBear]

I didn't research the Rishonim, but there are quite a few non-Chabad sources starting at the bottom of this page:
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=30510&st=&pgnum=318

(Maybe) he meant non-Chassidish.

[Ergel]

(Maybe) he meant non-Chassidish.

The minchas elazar is a good source.  Does he mention bracha there?
Also didn't understand how he was docheh the gemara

[DovtheBear]

I wouldn't call that the norm. 

I can't imagine that most people "enjoy"  eating soggy food while getting drenched.

ואדרבה מרוב שמחת מצוה אינו מרגיש
 בגשמים ואינו מצטער.. וכן נהגו הצדיקים והחסידים אשרי להם ואשרי חלקם
 עכ״ל בעצי עדן וכר. וישראל קדושים מחמירים על עצמם ואינם יוצאים מן הסוכה

[Dan]

I didn't research the Rishonim, but there are quite a few non-Chabad sources starting at the bottom of this page:
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=30510&st=&pgnum=318

As well as for several pages after that.

[churnbabychurn]

The Brisker Rov used to sit with an umbrella (chol hamoed)
[brought down in the green jacket succah sefer]

[DovtheBear]

The Brisker Rov used to sit with an umbrella (chol hamoed)
[brought down in the green jacket succah sefer]

Whats the Mekor for that?
Isn't it the same as sitting under a Shlock?

[Dan]

In case this is coming next, it's true that minhag Chabad is not to even drink water outside of the Sukkah on shmini atzeres (even if it's raining), but obviously we do not make a brocha.

[churnbabychurn]

Whats the Mekor for that?
Isn't it the same as sitting under a Shlock?

It does not necessarily constitute an ohel mafsik and therefore one can avoid the tzar and be mischayev. (according to some even a shlak may not passel a succah)

[churnbabychurn]

In case this is coming next, it's true that minhag Chabad is not to even drink water outside of the Sukkah on shmini atzeres (even if it's raining), but obviously we do not make a brocha.

interesting. Most other chassidim disregard the gemara on eating on shmini.

[Dan]

It does not necessarily constitute an ohel mafsik and therefore one can avoid the tzar and be mischayev. (according to some even a shlak may not passel a succah)

Do you really have tzar being outside in a rain jacket and rain hat?