Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons

[DovtheBear]

It does not necessarily constitute an ohel mafsik and therefore one can avoid the tzar and be mischayev. (according to some even a shlak may not passel a succah)

Better to sit in covered Sukkah than indooors?

Do you really have tzar being outside in a rain jacket and rain hat?

Sure.

[churnbabychurn]

Better to sit in covered Sukkah than indooors?

indeed some have taken this approach

[churnbabychurn]

Do you really have tzar being outside in a rain jacket and rain hat?

Tzar in hilchos succa is measured in how one would live in his house throughout the year. Would you stay in a house with a leaky roof in the rain?

[Dan]

interesting. Most other chassidim disregard the gemara on eating on shmini.

http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=30510&st=&pgnum=360&hilite=
360-364 for sources.

[Dan]

Tzar in hilchos succa is measured in how one would live in his house throughout the year. Would you stay in a house with a leaky roof in the rain?

In that case I also wouldn't stay in my house if it was 50 degrees, 90 degrees, had bees in it, etc, etc...

[meshugener]

Next topic: Hakafos on shmini atzeres.
Are there others who do this besides Chabad?

Night or day?

[churnbabychurn]

In that case I also wouldn't stay in my house if it was 50 degrees, 90 degrees, had bees in it, etc, etc...

The poskim say that coldness and bees would patter you. I guess it is up to the individual to decide when he cant take the succa no more...

[meshugener]

Yes.

You not afraid of brucha l'vatuleh?

[Dan]

Night or day?

Night.

The poskim say that coldness and bees would patter you. I guess it is up to the individual to decide when he cant take the succa no more...

Aha...

[Dan]

You not afraid of brucha l'vatuleh?

Was the Besh"t?

Anyway what did you zaidy say about Belz?

[Achas Veachas]

Do you make a leshev when it's raining?

Yes.

Oy

http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=30510&st=&pgnum=317&hilite=
317-321

A single non-chabad source (read rishonim) would be nice

(Maybe) he meant non-Chassidish.

I don't have time now to follow through, but the Shu"a Harav 639:18 Paskens that you make a Brachah, check the footnotes for HIS sources.

http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=25075&st=&pgnum=333&hilite=

[Ergel]

The Brisker Rov used to sit with an umbrella (chol hamoed)
[brought down in the green jacket succah sefer]

Probably without a bracha

[whYME]

I'm just curious, do all you non-Chabad guys actually sleep in the sukkah every night of sukkos?

[Ergel]

I'm just curious, do all you non-Chabad guys actually sleep in the sukkah every night of sukkos?

I do (except if it's raining).

[skyguy918]

I'm just curious, do all you non-Chabad guys actually sleep in the sukkah every night of sukkos?

Yeah, I have to stay out of it because I don't. I used to try when I was a bochur, but I would always get sick after one or 2 nights (especially if I was awakened by rain) no matter how many blankets I bundled under. I tell myself I'd sleep in the sukkah the whole time if I lived in Eretz Yisroel, it makes me feel better.

[DovtheBear]

Yeah, I have to stay out of it because I don't. I used to try when I was a bochur, but I would always get sick after one or 2 nights (especially if I was awakened by rain) no matter how many blankets I bundled under. I tell myself I'd sleep in the sukkah the whole time if I lived in Eretz Yisroel, it makes me feel better.

+1 

[HP58]

Yeah, I have to stay out of it because I don't. I used to try when I was a bochur, but I would always get sick after one or 2 nights (especially if I was awakened by rain) no matter how many blankets I bundled under. I tell myself I'd sleep in the sukkah the whole time if I lived in Eretz Yisroel, it makes me feel better.

Explain how that makes you feel better? That it's G-d's fault 'cuz he sent us out of Israel?

[churnbabychurn]

I try to. it's awesome, fresh air etc. Only problem is that the Spanish people on my block have roosters that wake me up at dawn!

[meshugener]

I'm just curious, do all you non-Chabad guys actually sleep in the sukkah every night of sukkos?

Can't speak for others, but I do.

Night.

We do. Actually I think all chasidim do.

[skyguy918]

Explain how that makes you feel better? That it's G-d's fault 'cuz he sent us out of Israel?

As in, I'm rationalizing to myself that the only reason I'm not sleeping outside is the weather. Israel would be an example of a place where the weather is generally more conducive to sleeping in the sukkah. Don't know what you thought I was saying to get all twisted up about it.