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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #420 on: September 20, 2015, 10:06:03 PM »
Anyone know where I can find כפרות in Brooklyn now?
The prevailing Chabad custom is to do it the night/morning before YK.
Correct. So tomorrow night in CH
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #421 on: September 20, 2015, 10:24:08 PM »
Correct. So tomorrow night in CH
Ye but I need tonight. I found in borough park.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #422 on: September 26, 2015, 09:11:44 PM »
Is it true that in Chabad there is a mesorah that when HKB"H said "ולקחתם לכם ביום הראשון וגו'", Moshe Rabbeinu a"h sent shluchim from the midbar to Calabria to bring "Yanever esrogim"?
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #423 on: September 26, 2015, 09:22:20 PM »
Is it true that in Chabad there is a mesorah that when HKB"H said "ולקחתם לכם ביום הראשון וגו'", Moshe Rabbeinu a"h sent shluchim from the midbar to Calabria to bring "Yanever esrogim"?
ספר המנהגים עמוד 65:

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #424 on: September 26, 2015, 09:51:32 PM »
How do you, then, explain this:

אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל בשעה שנשא שלמה את בת פרעה ירד גבריאל ונעץ קנה בים ועלה בו שירטון ועליו נבנה כרך גדול [של רומי] במתניתא תנא אותו היום שהכניס ירבעם שני עגלי זהב אחד בבית אל ואחד בדן נבנה צריף אחד וזהו איטליאה של יון ? ? ?
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #425 on: September 26, 2015, 09:57:28 PM »
How do you, then, explain this:

אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל בשעה שנשא שלמה את בת פרעה ירד גבריאל ונעץ קנה בים ועלה בו שירטון ועליו נבנה כרך גדול [של רומי] במתניתא תנא אותו היום שהכניס ירבעם שני עגלי זהב אחד בבית אל ואחד בדן נבנה צריף אחד וזהו איטליאה של יון ? ? ?
First of all, don't ask how I explain it, ask how the Alter Rebbe explains it.
Second of all, Rome is a little far from Calabria....

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #426 on: September 26, 2015, 10:02:59 PM »
Are we pulling out midrashim now?
הָעִיר רַבָּתִי עָם" תני רבי שמואל עשרים וארבע פלטיות היו בירושלים וכל פלטיה ופלטיה עשרים וארבע מבואות וכל מבוי ומבוי עשרים וארבע שווקים ועל כל שוק ושוק עשרים וארבע שקקים ועל כל שקק ושקק עשרים וארבע חצרות ועל כל חצר וחצר עשרים וארבע בתים וכל חצר וחצר היתה מוציאה עם כפלים כיוצאי מצרים

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #427 on: September 27, 2015, 12:54:12 AM »
Are we pulling out midrashim now?
הָעִיר רַבָּתִי עָם" תני רבי שמואל עשרים וארבע פלטיות היו בירושלים וכל פלטיה ופלטיה עשרים וארבע מבואות וכל מבוי ומבוי עשרים וארבע שווקים ועל כל שוק ושוק עשרים וארבע שקקים ועל כל שקק ושקק עשרים וארבע חצרות ועל כל חצר וחצר עשרים וארבע בתים וכל חצר וחצר היתה מוציאה עם כפלים כיוצאי מצרים
Now that sounds like מאה שערים

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #428 on: September 27, 2015, 02:57:29 AM »

Now that sounds like מאה שערים
ALOL

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #430 on: September 27, 2015, 10:17:26 AM »

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #431 on: September 27, 2015, 10:46:56 AM »
מאיזה ספר?

מי זה ''מרן''?
Didnt see it first had. I believe its a sefer about R tuvia goldstein

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #433 on: September 27, 2015, 11:53:26 AM »
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #434 on: September 27, 2015, 11:59:52 AM »
http://www.esrogim.info/History.pdf
And because the whole minhag to take yanev is based on the pedigree, once this got ruined in the 50's and 60s, why continue to take esrogim that now are difficult to know for sure that they are not grafted?

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #435 on: September 27, 2015, 12:01:46 PM »

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #437 on: September 27, 2015, 02:52:05 PM »
First of all, the reason I said you is because it seems that Chabadtzkers know quite a bit about their minhagim etc., as evidenced from this thread, so I figured you might already have the answer.

Secondly, it's not a midrash, it's a Gemara in Shabbos and Sanhedrin.

Finally, in the link that Dan shared it says besheim the Rebbe that איטליה של יון does refer to Southern Italy.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #438 on: September 27, 2015, 03:12:36 PM »
First of all, the reason I said you is because it seems that Chabadtzkers know quite a bit about their minhagim etc., as evidenced from this thread, so I figured you might already have the answer.
In that case maybe different wording would have been more apropriate, writing "You" comes across as very combative...

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Secondly, it's not a midrash, it's a Gemara in Shabbos and Sanhedrin.
I never said it was a Medrash...

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Finally, in the link that Dan shared it says besheim the Rebbe that איטליה של יון does refer to Southern Italy.
Personally I would take issue with anyone who takes both the Gemarah (and the Kabbalah) too literally.
If you paid closer attention to the link (and to the Sefer Haminhagim I posted earlier) you'd notice that the MAIN reason we use Calabria Esrogim is because of the Chazakah and NOT because of the Kaballah about Moshe sending Shluchim.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #439 on: September 30, 2015, 02:35:37 AM »
I guess chabad definitely wins when it comes to drinking even water in the sukka on a night like this