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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1220 on: September 21, 2018, 06:15:34 PM »
im still waiting for an explanation of this
From whom are you waiting for an explanation?
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1221 on: September 22, 2018, 03:08:21 PM »
If you DK, then why don't you first look it up?
 
Because I was not referring to them when I said exclusively religious jews.
Here again. Look into the ma'amar I quoted above (החלצו תרנ"ט) and you might understand what sinah is, and learn more about avoiding it.
I will not sit and read all the pages you link to. I am saying a basic understanding of sinah. If you want to write here a different explanation, feel free.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1222 on: September 22, 2018, 10:16:28 PM »
Untrue. Unless you're referring to tinokos shenishbu. Even then it may not be assur just not a chiyuv, though IDK.My understanding of sinah is bearing ill will, that  you wish ill on another. Otherwise you are just thinking negatively of another, which may be wrong, but is not hate. I had no intent of limud zechus, I just don't see hate neccessarily, just very different worlds.

Chabad love all Jews especially not religious.
That's what arba minim is about - to love the arava even though he doesn't have Torah or mitzvos. And you can't do arba minim without him.
If anything, Chabad just have to learn to love religious Jews who aren't chabad...

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1223 on: September 22, 2018, 10:34:40 PM »


Chabad love all Jews especially not religious.
That's what arba minim is about - to love the arava even though he doesn't have Torah or mitzvos. And you can't do arba minim without him.
If anything, Chabad just have to learn to love religious Jews who aren't chabad...
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1224 on: September 22, 2018, 10:35:04 PM »
If anything, Chabad just have to learn to love religious Jews who aren't chabad...
AKA: ישראל, אף על פי שלא חטא, ישראל הוא.  ;)
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1225 on: September 22, 2018, 10:58:41 PM »
AKA: ישראל, אף על פי שלא חטא, ישראל הוא.  ;)
But when I say it I'm a rabid anti Semite..

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1226 on: September 22, 2018, 11:04:27 PM »
But when I say it I'm a rabid anti Semite..
יפשפש במעשיו 
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1227 on: September 23, 2018, 01:07:35 AM »
CBC seems nuts. Dunno.
In Belz, in many non-rush minyanim, including by the Rav, Tehillim is said every day with minyan after davening. This has nothing to do with Chabad.

שנאת חסידים העבירתו על דעתו.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1228 on: September 23, 2018, 01:19:21 AM »
CBC seems nuts. Dunno.
In Belz, in many non-rush minyanim, including by the Rav, Tehillim is said every day with minyan after davening. This has nothing to do with Chabad.

שנאת חסידים העבירתו על דעתו.
So the rashab succeeded. At least in belz.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1229 on: September 23, 2018, 01:24:41 AM »
So the belzer ruv succeeded. At least in chabad.
Ftfy?
Or it depends on who you hate more?

I think this might be what's bugging you:
This is not a prism thing, it's a direct quote. I'm not providing any commentary.

"we must endeavor with every means possible that it become an established practice in every shul of every nusach.”

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1230 on: September 23, 2018, 01:25:49 AM »
From whom are you waiting for an explanation?
From CBC to explain  this mishna berura

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1231 on: September 23, 2018, 06:36:17 AM »
From CBC to explain  this mishna berura
You looking for his source?

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1232 on: September 23, 2018, 06:36:58 AM »


Ftfy?
Or it depends on who you hate more?


Again with the hate?

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1233 on: September 23, 2018, 08:42:44 AM »
So the rashab succeeded. At least in belz.

It has zero relationship to that. Completely independent.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1234 on: September 23, 2018, 10:25:51 AM »
It has zero relationship to that. Completely independent.
Chabbad has undercover agents (I'm serious!) ;)

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1235 on: September 23, 2018, 10:37:29 AM »


CBC seems nuts. Dunno.
In Belz, in many non-rush minyanim, including by the Rav, Tehillim is said every day with minyan after davening. This has nothing to do with Chabad.

שנאת חסידים העבירתו על דעתו.



So the rashab succeeded. At least in belz.


I have davened over the years in Satmer and Bobov and they say tehilim after davening (other places I'm not %100 sure )

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1236 on: September 23, 2018, 10:57:11 AM »
6-36 haddassim - chabad.
Pro or con?
@churnbabychurn - can you find a poisek who says it's Baal toisif?

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1237 on: September 23, 2018, 11:09:47 AM »
6-36 haddassim - chabad.
Pro or con?
@churnbabychurn - can you find a poisek who says it's Baal toisif?
Nah, it's a mishna basically. But kosher ones?

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1238 on: September 23, 2018, 11:12:17 AM »
36 mehudar ones here.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1239 on: September 23, 2018, 11:23:48 AM »
6-36 haddassim - chabad.
Pro or con?
@churnbabychurn - can you find a poisek who says it's Baal toisif?
Nothing keeps the arovos fresh like being surrounded by many hadassim
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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