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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1300 on: September 26, 2018, 03:01:03 PM »
See my follow up post with quotes from Tanya
Don't see how they change anything
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1301 on: September 26, 2018, 03:02:32 PM »
This has nothing to do with emunas chachmim.
We have here a huge posek and Talmid chochom that acted in a certain way that you don't understand.  You could believe that he knew what he was doing, even though he didn't consult with you
All to do with emunas chachamim, you want to trust him without reason based on nothing.
Part 2 is that he was a posek etc, whoch would be the trust I meantioned above.
Did paskin that way, or did it for himself? for himself I have no questions; if it was a psak, even for the sake of Talmud torah I have the right to question it, if it's al pi kabalah it's a different story too.
ETA: just noticed that it was Harav Baal hatanya who I have much respect for, so I take a step back.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1302 on: September 26, 2018, 03:04:12 PM »
did he paskin that way, or did it for himself? for himself I have no questions; if it was a psak, even for the sake of Talmud torah I have the right to question it, if it's al pi kabalah it's a different story too.

See here.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1303 on: September 26, 2018, 03:05:14 PM »
See here.
Sorry, I'll need an hour to decipher that.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1304 on: September 26, 2018, 03:07:07 PM »
Sorry, I'll need an hour to decipher that.
Slicha.
An hour well spent for simchas YT.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1305 on: September 26, 2018, 03:08:31 PM »
An hour well spent for simchas YT.
Maybe if I come in to 770 one night chol hamoed, during the drive.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1306 on: September 26, 2018, 03:09:42 PM »
Maybe if I come in to 770 one night chop hamoed, during the drive.
Don't read and drive. But you're welcome to my Sukkah for a DO any night.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1307 on: September 26, 2018, 03:13:32 PM »
Don't read and drive. But you're welcome to my Sukkah for a DO any night.
That was assuming I have someone else drive.
Assuming I make it in I'd love to have an impromptu DO-can't plan it cuz I don't know until I begin driving.
Just 2 ground rules, no political discussions, and no religious discussions ;)
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1308 on: September 26, 2018, 03:16:47 PM »
Sorry, I'll need an hour to decipher that.
Slicha.
Will take you an hour to decipher that, yet you feel qualified to question הנהגות of tzaddikim. ::)
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1309 on: September 26, 2018, 03:18:28 PM »
Will take you an hour to decipher that, yet you feel qualified to question הנהגות of tzaddikim. ::)
Yiddish isn't my first or second language.
As I clarified hanahgos aren't my business, it's a psak that I'm questioning.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1310 on: September 26, 2018, 03:27:26 PM »
All to do with emunas chachamim, you want to trust him without knowing the reason based on his record of knowing a bit of torah.
Ftfy

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1311 on: September 26, 2018, 03:29:07 PM »
Ftfy
Did you stop reading after that line? That's what I wrote
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1312 on: September 26, 2018, 03:29:33 PM »
Just 2 ground rules, no political discussions, and no religious discussions ;)
Or you can put your ego aside, and go through the sugya properly

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1313 on: September 26, 2018, 03:31:40 PM »
Yiddish isn't my first or second language.
Was probably my fourth (or fifth if we count Aramaic). You could always ask @ChaimMoskowitz or ask for help on his thread.
Not implying that command of the Yiddish language qualifies one to question tzaddikim. But there are many other things you presumably aren't as well versed, that would call for some humility.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1314 on: September 26, 2018, 03:32:07 PM »
Just 2 ground rules, no political discussions, and no religious discussions ;)
That's my kind of a DO!!!
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1315 on: September 26, 2018, 03:35:20 PM »

Or you can put your ego aside, and go through the sugya properly

I've said this a few times before, I have tremendous respect for ExGingi and his halachic knowledge.
A halachic discussion I'd love (AKA a shiur), but the topic "chabad" I want to steer clear of.
Was probably my fourth (or fifth if we count Aramaic). You could always ask @ChaimMoskowitz or ask for help on his thread.
Not implying that command of the Yiddish language qualifies one to question tzaddikim. But there are many other things you presumably aren't as well versed, that would call for some humility.
I'll be able to read it, but I'll have to mentally translate each word
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1316 on: September 26, 2018, 03:53:11 PM »
I've said this a few times before, I have tremendous respect for ExGingi and his halachic knowledge.
A halachic discussion I'd love (AKA a shiur), but the topic "chabad" I want to steer clear of. I'll be able to read it, but I'll have to mentally translate each word
Your respect is totally misplaced.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1317 on: September 26, 2018, 04:00:09 PM »
That's my kind of a DO!!!
So why don't we have one on Thursday, rather than you paying attention to the circus. Assuming AA won't keep you captive on the runway for too long.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1318 on: September 26, 2018, 04:02:19 PM »
So why don't we have one on Thursday, rather than you paying attention to the circus. Assuming AA won't keep you captive on the runway for too long.
I need a little more notice. The circus is a sideshow to what I am doing. The same as posting now.  ;)
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #1319 on: September 26, 2018, 04:09:21 PM »


Your respect is totally misplaced.
I'm neutral until I have an indicator either way, I don't think I mentioned any disrespect for anyone, just that there is always room for doubts in halacha.
As I said,
ETA: just noticed that it was Harav Baal hatanya who I have much respect for, so I take a step back.

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