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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #120 on: May 26, 2022, 10:19:46 AM »
Why? 2A applies to everyone.
Child fighters are the way to defeat a tyrannical government I guess


Reading the constitution like it's torah misinai and the word of G-d is just so ridiculous

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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #121 on: May 26, 2022, 10:33:51 AM »
Why? 2A applies to everyone.
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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #122 on: May 26, 2022, 10:36:04 AM »
Why? 2A applies to everyone.
Children are not afforded the same constructional rights as an adult.

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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #123 on: May 26, 2022, 10:41:16 AM »
We may get a SCOTUS ruling on this very soon. The issue with such laws is that 2A applies to everyone, not only those over 21. It's infringing on the rights of any adult under 21.

At what age does it become a constitutionally protected right?
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We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #124 on: May 26, 2022, 10:42:55 AM »
At what age does it become a constitutionally protected right?
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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #125 on: May 26, 2022, 10:59:26 AM »
Child fighters are the way to defeat a tyrannical government I guess


Reading the constitution like it's torah misinai and the word of G-d is just so ridiculous

those 18 year olds in diapers did pretty well for themselves (and us) in WWII

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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #126 on: May 26, 2022, 11:04:18 AM »
But there will always be crazy pushback from the right as long as the left is pushing to ban assault and high capacity weapons (which are necessary for the reason the second amendment was written - to fight back against armies that do have those weapons),
"Ladies and gentleman, since nowadays assault weapons alone can no longer fight back against a tyrannical government's modern weapons, I hereby introduce this new bill - Javelins and stingers for everyone!!"

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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #128 on: May 26, 2022, 01:03:01 PM »
Strangely, this is becoming an argument for more guns.
There were more than enough guns there. The right personnel were lacking.

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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #129 on: May 26, 2022, 01:06:17 PM »
There were more than enough guns there. The right personnel were lacking.

The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a force of good guys with guns barricade him in a room with children until better guys come with better guns

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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #130 on: May 26, 2022, 01:12:12 PM »
The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a force of good guys with guns barricade him in a room with children until better guys come with better guns

Just give the children inside guns as well, and it wouldn’t happen in the first place…
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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #131 on: May 26, 2022, 01:18:23 PM »
The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a force of good guys with guns barricade him in a room with children until better guys come with better guns
Didn't they have him barricaded the entire time ? All the victims were in the same classroom where he barricaded himself. If that only occurred after 40 minutes, then what was he doing for 40 minutes ?

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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #132 on: May 26, 2022, 01:27:49 PM »
There should be a stronger emphasis on the pervasive culture of violence that is influencing our children through movies and TV shows.
Why isn't there a push to restrict this type of content from being broadcasted?

Imagine if everyone was watching movies all day of people doing chessed with others and trying to befriend sad people (kind of like some of the CCHF clips), how different do you think our communities would look? Are there any high profile actors/producers who would insist on producing content of such nature?

IMHO, common sense gun laws should be introduced, but there is nothing like modelling proper behavior to our youth. If we could make kindness and helping others in vouge, that would go a long way in solving this problem.
Don't forget violent video games. One of the worst things out there. It’s not black & white pixelated dots anymore, it’s real life full color blood & guts. The more you kill the higher you go. It normalizes it all. Kids are sitting attached to it for hours a day.

Do kids in other countries not have access to video games?

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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #133 on: May 26, 2022, 01:48:57 PM »
Joe Garcia, husband of Uvalde teacher Irma Garcia, just died of a heart attack. RIP. :'(
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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #134 on: May 26, 2022, 01:52:32 PM »
Do kids in other countries not have access to video games?
Yea but video games don't shoot  ::)

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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #135 on: May 26, 2022, 02:02:41 PM »
One of the worst things out there. It normalizes it all.
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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #136 on: May 26, 2022, 02:06:01 PM »
The armed populace isn't even able to stop teenage killers, let alone a tyrannical government
Inversely, a government with a $801 billion budget can't stop a teenager with a gun...
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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #137 on: May 26, 2022, 02:11:35 PM »
Don't forget violent video games. One of the worst things out there. It’s not black & white pixelated dots anymore, it’s real life full color blood & guts. The more you kill the higher you go. It normalizes it all. Kids are sitting attached to it for hours a day.

FWIU, whenever anyone has tried to actually study this, they find video games have no correlation to violent or criminal behavior of any kind.

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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #138 on: May 26, 2022, 02:28:24 PM »
FWIU, whenever anyone has tried to actually study this, they find video games have no correlation to violent or criminal behavior of any kind.
I'm not sure how a negative can be proven. And as an aside, anyone who needs a study to confirm this, should not be in a decision making capacity...

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Re: We need a separate mass shooting forum.
« Reply #139 on: May 26, 2022, 02:35:53 PM »
I'm not sure how a negative can be proven. And as an aside, anyone who needs a study to confirm this, should not be in a decision making capacity...
I don’t understand either of the things you said.

He specifically said no correlation was found.
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