Author Topic: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD! (Read 19542 times)

CountValentine · « **Reply #140 on:** September 12, 2019, 08:31:53 PM »

Quote from: TimT on September 12, 2019, 08:26:21 PM

So every article you read, everything online, even MSN, every witness interviewed on TV, is all hearsay to you, correct ?

A witness interviewed on TV is that persons words you are hearing. A quote is that persons words.

TimT · « **Reply #141 on:** September 12, 2019, 08:34:12 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on September 12, 2019, 08:31:53 PM

A witness interviewed on TV is that persons words you are hearing. A quote is that persons words.

A newspaper telling you what John Shmoe said is more believable than me telling you what he said ? I didn’t do any editing

CountValentine · « **Reply #142 on:** September 12, 2019, 08:38:06 PM »

Quote from: TimT on September 12, 2019, 08:34:12 PM

A newspaper telling you what John Shmoe said is more believable than me telling you what he said ? I didn’t do any editing

All I am trying to do is get the facts. I can't believe there isn't a video of this with sound.

TimT · « **Reply #143 on:** September 12, 2019, 08:39:24 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on September 12, 2019, 08:38:06 PM

All I am trying to do is get the facts. I can't believe there isn't a video of this with sound.

That didn’t answer the q

shapsam · « **Reply #144 on:** September 12, 2019, 08:52:26 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on September 12, 2019, 08:38:06 PM

All I am trying to do is get the facts. I can't believe there isn't a video of this with sound.

There was nothing going on before that someone would start taking a video. Also this was right after Shabbos...

CountValentine · « **Reply #145 on:** September 12, 2019, 08:58:42 PM »

Quote from: shapsam on September 12, 2019, 08:52:26 PM

There was nothing going on before that someone would start taking a video. Also this was right after Shabbos...

What about when everyone was helping the girls? We see the lights were on, how about the sirens? All those people and no one was videoing it? Hard to believe.

aygart · « **Reply #146 on:** September 12, 2019, 09:12:43 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on September 12, 2019, 08:58:42 PM

What about when everyone was helping the girls? We see the lights were on, how about the sirens? All those people and no one was videoing it? Hard to believe.

Quote from: shapsam on September 12, 2019, 08:52:26 PM

o. Also this was right after Shabbos...

CountValentine · « **Reply #147 on:** September 12, 2019, 09:49:27 PM »

Quote from: aygart on September 12, 2019, 09:12:43 PM

They don't use their phones after Shabbos? You need to get out more.

aygart · « **Reply #148 on:** September 12, 2019, 09:54:21 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on September 12, 2019, 09:49:27 PM

They don't use their phones after Shabbos? You need to get out more.

Depends how soon. If they weren't home yet then they wouldn't have it with them. Audi depending on who was around, many would be culturally less likely to rush and pull out their phone since they wouldn't be posting it online anyhow

grodnoking · « **Reply #149 on:** September 12, 2019, 10:05:00 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on September 12, 2019, 09:49:27 PM

They don't use their phones after Shabbos? You need to get out more.

Most of those people where more like dumb phone owners. That video ain't getting online.

TimT · « **Reply #150 on:** September 13, 2019, 06:45:44 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on September 12, 2019, 08:58:42 PM

What about when everyone was helping the girls? We see the lights were on, how about the sirens? All those people and no one was videoing it? Hard to believe.

Skip to 1:30 in the video
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/1784634/major-crash-in-boro-park-nypd-cruiser-strikes-pedestrians-on-13-ave.html

CountValentine · « **Reply #151 on:** September 13, 2019, 07:02:51 AM »

Quote from: TimT on September 13, 2019, 06:45:44 AM

Skip to 1:30 in the video
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/1784634/major-crash-in-boro-park-nypd-cruiser-strikes-pedestrians-on-13-ave.html

What am I looking for?
Is that the black mini-van in the pictures that was involved in the accident?
Is it still sitting in intersection where the accident happened?

TimT · « **Reply #152 on:** September 13, 2019, 07:09:07 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on September 13, 2019, 07:02:51 AM

What am I looking for?
Is that the black mini-van in the pictures that was involved in the accident?
Is it still sitting in intersection where the accident happened?

Didn't you ask if sirens were on after the accident, while everyone is helping ?

CountValentine · « **Reply #153 on:** September 13, 2019, 07:09:35 AM »

Quote from: aygart on September 12, 2019, 09:54:21 PM

Depends how soon. If they weren't home yet then they wouldn't have it with them. Audi depending on who was around, many would be culturally less likely to rush and pull out their phone since they wouldn't be posting it online anyhow

Quote from: grodnoking on September 12, 2019, 10:05:00 PM

Most of those people where more like dumb phone owners. That video ain't getting online.

What were you saying?

Quote from: TimT on September 13, 2019, 06:45:44 AM

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/1784634/major-crash-in-boro-park-nypd-cruiser-strikes-pedestrians-on-13-ave.html

CountValentine · « **Reply #154 on:** September 13, 2019, 07:15:24 AM »

Quote from: TimT on September 13, 2019, 07:09:07 AM

Didn't you ask if sirens were on after the accident, while everyone is helping ?

Yes and let the record show at that point the sirens were not on.
How about my other questions as we are trying to establish facts. If that is mini-van involved in the accident then it hit the police SUV broadside.
Also seeing where the vehicles ended up tells me neither was going very fast.

TimT · « **Reply #155 on:** September 13, 2019, 07:26:57 AM »

Cruiser ends up at opposite end of intersection from where the accident was. Right at the building. There was nowhere else for it to go. Speed limit there is only 20 or 25.

“Police still trying to determine”
CountValentine: “Minivan hit the police suv”

CountValentine · « **Reply #156 on:** September 13, 2019, 07:33:16 AM »

Quote from: TimT on September 13, 2019, 07:26:57 AM

“Police still trying to determine”
CountValentine: “Minivan hit the police suv”

Look at the pictures or you are not going to believe your eyes? Front on mini-van is destroyed and front of police SUV is fine.
Please explain how this happened other than the mini-van broadsiding the police SUV?

CountValentine · « **Reply #157 on:** September 13, 2019, 07:34:13 AM »

Quote from: TimT on September 13, 2019, 07:26:57 AM

Cruiser ends up at opposite end of intersection from where the accident was. Right at the building. There was nowhere else for it to go. Speed limit there is only 20 or 25.

I would be surprised if he was going even that fast.

CountValentine · « **Reply #158 on:** September 13, 2019, 07:36:00 AM »

Facts are painting a very clear picture of what happened and are backing up the mayor's tweet as being 100% correct.

TimT · « **Reply #159 on:** September 13, 2019, 07:39:30 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on September 13, 2019, 07:34:13 AM

I would be surprised if he was going even that fast.

I don’t care if he’s going slower. My problem from the beginning has been that he never slowed down as he approached a red light. Don’t know about Chicago but in New York there are safety rules that responders must follow, which he clearly didn’t. Had he followed safety procedures this would never have happened.