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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #80 on: September 09, 2019, 11:39:27 AM »
When you only state part of a statue and take it out of context should I believe otherwise.

You posted: “shall apply only when audible signals are sounded from any said vehicle while in motion by bell, horn, siren, ”

The statue states: Except for an authorized emergency vehicle operated as a police vehicle or bicycle, the exemptions herein granted to an authorized emergency vehicle shall apply only when audible signals are sounded from any said vehicle while in motion by bell, horn, siren...
Since you are the go to guy for reading this type of stuff you care to explain to them what that statue means? That won't believe me.  :)
You might what to read the statue again.
I never said this. You and others are saying it is illegal for him to go through a red light without sirens on. That is not correct according to the statue.



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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #81 on: September 09, 2019, 11:40:56 AM »


I never said this. You and others are saying it is illegal for him to go through a red light without sirens on. That is not correct according to the statue.




Also says “2. Proceed past a steady red signal, a flashing red signal or a stop sign, but **only after slowing down as may be necessary for safe operation;”**

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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #83 on: September 09, 2019, 11:43:15 AM »
Thanks for proving my point.
My point was that he was allowed to go thru, but not recklessly like he did.
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #84 on: September 09, 2019, 11:44:53 AM »
Sorry, but I just had to :D
Auto correct ran out of t's.
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #85 on: September 09, 2019, 11:46:00 AM »
My point was that he was allowed to go thru, but not recklessly like he did.
Now you are getting to the debate stage. I am in the fact finding stage.
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #86 on: September 09, 2019, 11:47:42 AM »
How did a guy with no formal education in law become the go to guy for reading random statutes?
Formal education is not the goal post.  :)
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #87 on: September 09, 2019, 11:53:50 AM »
Now you are getting to the debate stage. I am in the fact finding stage.
Your issue is, is that once we hit the debate stage you refuse to add any more facts then the ones you brought in, and consider any more fact finding deflections. I'm just trying to debate while I still can get more facts in, because i know soon - once you have all YOUR facts, the fact door will be closed.
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #88 on: September 09, 2019, 11:59:00 AM »
Your issue is, is that once we hit the debate stage you refuse to add any more facts then the ones you brought in, and consider any more fact finding deflections. I'm just trying to debate while I still can get more facts in, because i know soon - once you have all YOUR facts, the fact door will be closed.
Fact door is never closed. Facts that have nothing to do with this situation are deflections.
Look how many deflections we had to get to one simple fact. Police vehicles do not need sirens on going through a red light.
My next question to establish another fact is: Were the sirens on or off?
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #89 on: September 09, 2019, 12:03:49 PM »
Thanks for proving my point.
Since it's out of context you can read it how you like?
 It's referring to a call or pursuit vs him wanting to get his McDonald's lunch special.
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #90 on: September 09, 2019, 12:06:40 PM »
It's referring to a call or pursuit vs him wanting to get his McDonald's lunch special.
That question is on my list but lets take this one step at a time.  :)
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #91 on: September 09, 2019, 12:11:25 PM »
Since it's out of context you can read it how you like?
 It's referring to a call or pursuit vs him wanting to get his McDonald's lunch special.
But how would a car going the other way know which one it is?
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #92 on: September 09, 2019, 12:18:51 PM »
But how would a car going the other way know which one it is?
    They wouldn't that's why it's upon the emergency vehicle to slow down and to make sure no one goes into him or he doesn't go into someone else.
   When emergency vehicle blows a light he knows that another car might smack into him God forbid and kill him, just that alone should be reason why he should slow down, let alone that he might injure others.
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #93 on: September 09, 2019, 12:32:15 PM »
    They wouldn't that's why it's upon the emergency vehicle to slow down and to make sure no one goes into him or he doesn't go into someone else.
   When emergency vehicle blows a light he knows that another car might smack into him God forbid and kill him, just that alone should be reason why he should slow down, let alone that he might injure others.

What does this have to do with whether it is for an emergency or for a coffee?
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #94 on: September 09, 2019, 12:35:57 PM »
What does this have to do with whether it is for an emergency or for a coffee?
     Exactly what I'm trying to say whether it's for a coffee, an emergency or to catch the 4 O'clock time for McDonald's lunch special there's no reason for them to drive recklessly through a red light.
    Being that you're on an emergency doesn't give him the right to blow the red recklessly they can blow it, but like a human.

  it's funny to see there are many cops that will just blow the reds slowing down a bit and then there are many that will actually slow down to check if there's a car then continuing going through a red.
  In my opinion it's those cops that got into an accident before are the ones that are more cautious.
 
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #95 on: September 09, 2019, 12:49:37 PM »
     Exactly what I'm trying to say whether it's for a coffee, an emergency or to catch the 4 O'clock time for McDonald's lunch special there's no reason for them to drive recklessly through a red light.
    Being that you're on an emergency doesn't give him the right to blow the red recklessly they can blow it, but like a human.

  it's funny to see there are many cops that will just blow the reds slowing down a bit and then there are many that will actually slow down to check if there's a car then continuing going through a red.
  In my opinion it's those cops that got into an accident before are the ones that are more cautious.
 
So what are you trying to say with this?

 It's referring to a call or pursuit vs him wanting to get his McDonald's lunch special.
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #96 on: September 09, 2019, 12:53:48 PM »
   it's funny to see there are many cops that will just blow the reds slowing down a bit 
Its not funny, also not funny when they fly past a stopped school bus with red lights blinking. The job is to rescue people, not put them in danger.

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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #97 on: September 09, 2019, 12:54:58 PM »
Its not funny, also not funny when they fly past a stopped school bus with red lights blinking. The job is to rescue people, not put them in danger.
Any time someone captures such a thing on a dashcam or the like they should post it online and send it to the media.
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #98 on: September 09, 2019, 12:59:27 PM »
So what are you trying to say with this?
He was saying one does not need to go through a red light with lights and siren's, so Chances are if he has his lights and siren's he going to an emergency and chances if it's off he's partying in his cruiser there's no lights when blowing a red, yes many times there searching for a suspect so no lights or sirens, but most times that not the case.
     Point blank the officer should have had his sirens on and slowed down a bit at the red and not fly through it the speed he was going.
  Yes most lights on 13th are synced, but the speed he was going would cause him to get to the light before it would turn green.
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Re: DeBlasio Tweets out fake false news, this time sticking up for the NYPD!
« Reply #99 on: September 09, 2019, 01:03:49 PM »
Its not funny, also not funny when they fly past a stopped school bus with red lights blinking. The job is to rescue people, not put them in danger.
I remember such a story years ago when crossing a two way street and going in front of the bus to cross and comes flying by a little cop three wheel scooter car/ the old little cabin cars, and the bus driver not knowing what to do starts honking at me which gave me a shock of my life with that horn so I immediately stopped and Bam comes flying the little scooter the cop was riding ,even though the stop sign was out on the bus , two way street doesn't make it any different then a one way.
   Now I'm starting to understand why in bp all bus drivers go across both Lanes on a two way , for those cops!
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