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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #60 on: September 12, 2019, 11:48:18 AM »
I think we should split this off.

Education is a parents job. If you count on the schools to educate your kids they may not learn things that are important and may learn things that are very unimportant.

My girls attend a smaller (some might call it "fringe") school in the community, and I've had nieces (some of them boarded in my house) that attended the larger mainstream school in the community (BTW a good friend whose daughter goes to that school told me yesterday that his daughter came home with an assignment to ask her parents about 9/11). Seeing the contrasts just reinforced my views that the only things I expect my daughters to learn in school are: 1. Proper השקפה (obviously not relying on school, but expecting it to complement what's conveyed at home). 2. Relevant Halochos, and 3. מדות טובות.
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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #61 on: September 12, 2019, 11:52:53 AM »
My girls attend a smaller (some might call it "fring") school in the community, and I've had nieces (some of them boarded in my house) that attended the larger mainstream school in the community (BTW a good friend whose daughter goes to that school told me yesterday that his daughter came home with an assignment to ask her parents about 9/11). Seeing the contrasts just reinforced my views that the only things I expect my daughters to learn in school are: 1. Proper השקפה (obviously not relying on school, but expecting it to complement what's conveyed at home). 2. Relevant Halochos, and 3. מדות טובות.
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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #62 on: September 12, 2019, 11:55:04 AM »
My girls attend a smaller (some might call it "fring") school in the community
Regular english?
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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #63 on: September 12, 2019, 11:57:39 AM »
Regular english?
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I think we should split this off.

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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #64 on: September 12, 2019, 12:31:36 PM »
Going back on Topic - I think that the earliest kids should be told about it is roughly 5-6th grade (say around 11 years old or so) but in broad terms - there was a terror attack by some bad people. They wanted to kill or hurt americans, a lot of people were killed. Obviously they may still express anxiety and fear, but it's probably easier for them to comprehend and have their fears assuaged than a 7 or 8 year old. (speaking from parental experience - I am not a shrink).

I don't think that the details need to be shared with kids below HS. i.e. the 'misah meshuna' discussions that we had on the original thread are not for kids below 15 or 16. (ex. People jumping to their deaths to prevent from being burned.)


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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #65 on: September 12, 2019, 12:42:06 PM »
Regular english?
No. An obvious typo.
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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #66 on: September 12, 2019, 04:21:47 PM »
My girls attend a smaller (some might call it "fringe") school in the community, and I've had nieces (some of them boarded in my house) that attended the larger mainstream school in the community (BTW a good friend whose daughter goes to that school told me yesterday that his daughter came home with an assignment to ask her parents about 9/11). Seeing the contrasts just reinforced my views that the only things I expect my daughters to learn in school are: 1. Proper השקפה (obviously not relying on school, but expecting it to complement what's conveyed at home). 2. Relevant Halochos, and 3. מדות טובות.

sorry to go off topic again but could not disagree more

The 3 things you mention are much more important to be taught at home and only reinforced by the school

School is meant to learn the things you can't teach at home such as math, science, history, social studies and the like.

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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #67 on: September 12, 2019, 04:35:48 PM »
Education is a parents job.
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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #68 on: September 12, 2019, 04:58:14 PM »
Education is a parents job. If you count on the schools to educate your kids they may not learn things that are important and may learn things that are very unimportant.
You want to leave education to the parents? Now there is a great idea. Have a bunch of uneducated morons educating our kids. 
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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #69 on: September 12, 2019, 05:07:28 PM »
School is meant to learn the things you can't teach at home such as math, science, history, social studies and the like.

1. How many hours should be dedicated to those and over how many years?
2. Science? History? Social Studies (not sure what that means)? - What percentage of kids end up having any practical benefit from those, and to what extent?
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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2019, 05:27:53 PM »
1. How many hours should be dedicated to those and over how many years?
2. Science? History? Social Studies (not sure what that means)? - What percentage of kids end up having any practical benefit from those, and to what extent?
It is called be exposed to the world and universe instead of being stuck in a cocoon.
Maybe if they studied different things when they grow up they wouldn't be asking of DDF on how to do basic things around the house.  :)
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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2019, 05:29:06 PM »
Isn't there a 9/11 fee in airline tickets. They gotta learn about it in finance classes

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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #72 on: September 12, 2019, 05:44:11 PM »
1. How many hours should be dedicated to those and over how many years?
2. Science? History? Social Studies geography, current events etc(not sure what that means)? - What percentage of kids end up having any practical benefit from those, and to what extent?

The amount of time and the amount of years is decided based on the school you choose but I think at least a rudimentary base of knowledge is important

Your right that a lot of kids might not need to use all the knowledge they learn in school everyday but that doesn't mean they should have a basic understanding of it.

depending what the child ends up doing then they can use the knowledge every day.

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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #73 on: September 12, 2019, 05:47:17 PM »
You want to leave education to the parents? Now there is a great idea. Have a bunch of uneducated morons educating our kids.
He means that it's the parents' responsibility. They generally fulfill (most) of that responsibility by sending their children to a school they feel will educate the children in a manner they find acceptable. But it's not as simple as 'I enrolled my kid in school, now I don't need to do anything else'. You have to ensure your child is learning what you want them to learn, monitor their progress, step in to teach things you feel the school might be leaving out that you want your child to know.

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Re: When Do You Talk To Your Kids About 9/11?
« Reply #74 on: September 12, 2019, 05:49:38 PM »
IF and when they ask.

Are you saying never? I honestly don't think any of my kids schools would teach anything about it, nor do I see a need for any Jewish school or Yeshiva to specifically teach anything about it.

BTW, how many people 'round here know it also as כג אלול without looking it up?
My third grade daughter came home from Beis Rivkah with a 9/11 project.
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