Author Topic: Honestly, honestly do you feel smartphones have improved your quality of life?  (Read 31515 times)

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when you needed to shlep around a key for your car

I want a Tesla as much as the next guy, but my spine is not exactly being deformed from the car key hanging on my belt :P.
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I struggle with this a lot. As many above have responded, there are pros and cons to everything in the world, but everything has to be used in its proper time.

I can't argue that Smart phones have definitely made improvements to the quality of life - as many have pointed out they're indispensable in many business cases, and enable us to take care of certain things faster and more efficiently. As others have pointed out - where would we be without Waze? Messaging apps? In many ways my phone has replaced many of the things I used to need to carry - keys, credit cards, a camera, all rolled into one. Remember all of those life moments where you wish you had a camera - now you have one in your back pocket! Forgot your wallet at home on a trip to the store - pay by phone.

At the same time, I think that the smartphone has contributed to increased levels of anxiety and exacerbated ADHD in people. It's also exacerbated the availability expectations employers have of employees. All the years I did technical support, I dreaded turning on my Blackberry/Smartphone after shabbos to find urgent e-mails, or worse, hitting refresh waiting for e-mails to arrive. Your boss expecting you to answer e-mails off hours and on weekends. (Yes my bosses are aware I am shomer shabbos, but expect a response sat. night or sunday).

Think about it does to people with ADHD - the constant buzz that pulls you away from whatever task you are doing. The FOMO of missing an important text message, and constantly checking. It all takes a toll on our mental well being.

So I guess what I am saying is it's a mixed bag.

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I want a Tesla as much as the next guy, but my spine is not exactly being deformed from the car key hanging on my belt :P.

As a matter of fact I find a lot not to like about key fobs and how they work with locking the car. I think unlocked cars occur a lot more often due to fobs replacing keys (and inability to activate all door locks while any door is still open).
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As a matter of fact I find a lot not to like about key fobs and how they work with locking the car. I think unlocked cars occur a lot more often due to fobs replacing keys (and inability to activate all door locks while any door is still open).
TM3 locks all doors by default when the phone is 10+ feet away from the car.
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TM3 locks all doors by default when the phone is 10+ feet away from the car.

That's great, I wish other carmakers would implement the same. However at this point, TM3 isn't a minivan, also the economics of it don't necessarily make sense in every situation. So it isn't necessarily a solution to that specific problem.
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That's great, I wish other carmakers would implement the same. However at this point, TM3 isn't a minivan, also the economics of it don't necessarily make sense in every situation. So it isn't necessarily a solution to that specific problem.
TMY will fit 7 pax, though it's no minivan and isn't out yet.
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That's great, I wish other carmakers would implement the same. However at this point, TM3 isn't a minivan, also the economics of it don't necessarily make sense in every situation. So it isn't necessarily a solution to that specific problem.
Other cars have this too.
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Other cars have this too.
If it's not a minivan then it doesn't count :)
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If it's not a minivan then it doesn't count :)
I'm sure one of the minivans have it
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I'm sure one of the minivans have it

Let me know when a reliable one (such as the Sienna, which has 8 seats) has it.
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TMY will fit 7 pax, though it's no minivan and isn't out yet.

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Though I really wonder how crammed it might be.
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how is TM3 in steering? asking because we are way off topic.....

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how is TM3 in steering? asking because we are way off topic.....
Incredible.
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If it's not a minivan then it doesn't count :)

Yup. My previous car was an 8 seat Honda Pilot. While I liked certain aspects of it, it was nowhere near as roomy as a minivan and had close to 0 cargo space.
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how is TM3 in steering? asking because we are way off topic.....
Incredible.
Very low center of balance will do that.
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I let this simmer for almost 24 hours and so far there are 4 responses:
1) No
2) Yes
3) Yes in moderation
4) No, but I need it for business

To those that said no, kudos and I hope you actively help stem the rising addiction.

To those that said yes, well, your life must've been pretty miserable before. Again, no one will say smartphones are not beneficial but the risks outweigh the rewards. Putting it away during family time is a start, but can you truly say you don't steal minutes here and there even though it's officially outside family time? Those minutes add up, those "Yay dad is home!" "Wait, he's not coming inside" "Oh, he must be on his phone again" leave a lasting mark.

To those that said yes with moderation, see @aygart 's perfect rebuttal here

To those that said I need it for business, did you say that excitedly or dejectedly?
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Yup. My previous car was an 8 seat Honda Pilot. While I liked certain aspects of it, it was nowhere near as roomy as a minivan and had close to 0 cargo space.
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how is TM3 in steering? asking because we are way off topic.....
It's the best handling Tesla of the 3 models.
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So delete your social media/Whatsapp. That's conflating 2 separate issues.

The issue is a simple one: outcomes. In the end of the day whether it’s due to overuse of social media, mindless scrolling, keeping up with the Joneses, lack of face-to-face socializing, or one of many many other issues associated with smart phones, many, many people are negatively affected. Studies bear this out. It may be their own fault, and there may be effective strategies for individuals to use their smart phones only in positive ways as you say you do, but in the end of the day it’s fair to say that many if not most  people do not have effective tools and are negatively impacted either emotionally, mentally, or in their relationships.

It’s kind of like straight low-calorie dieting: everyone knows that when properly implemented and followed it is the most effective way to lose weight  but it probably has some of the worst outcomes among mainstream diets since most people are not capable of discipline themselves to follow the regimen...