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Best kosher wines:

$5-$15:

Moscoto

$15-30:
Isaac's Ram
Jerusalem Heights
Psagot
Herzog - Variations 3/4/5
1848
Lewis Pasco - The Pasco Project

$30-$40:
Yarden Cabernet Sauvignon 2014


$40-$50:

$50+:
Spain:
Elvi Herenza Reserva
Close Mesorah
Capcanes Peraj Habib
Capcanes flor de primavera (Grenache)
Capcanes flor samso (Carignan)

France:
Haut Condissas
Malartic 2005
Pontet Canet 2004
Echo de roses camile
Le Clide
Tertere Duagay 2009

Israel:
Flam Noble
Gvaot Masada
Shiloh Mosaic
Pesagot single vineyard 2013 and more recent
Yatir Forest
Castel Grand vin
Carmel Limited Edition
Recanati special reserve
Recanati wild vine Carignan
Recanati Marselan
Hebron Heights Machpela
Tura Mountain Peak
Flam Reserve
Louria Grand Vital

California:

Herzog Single vineyards
Herzog clone 6
Herzog SR - PS, PV, CS etc
Covenant Cab
4gates - all
Shirah
Hajdu

« Last edited by az on March 27, 2019, 06:27:34 AM »

Poll

What type of wine do you prefer

Dry wine
205 (69.5%)
Semi-dry wine
56 (19%)
Sweet wine
19 (6.4%)
Dessert wine
8 (2.7%)
The cheaper the better
7 (2.4%)

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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #660 on: April 13, 2016, 10:35:30 AM »
Had the Shirah BroDuex and liked it a lot.

I used my Corvain last night to try the Geshem, did not see why its so special. Am i missing anything?
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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #661 on: April 13, 2016, 07:05:33 PM »
Had the Shirah BroDuex and liked it a lot.

I used my Corvain last night to try the Geshem, did not see why its so special. Am i missing anything?
Do you use the Coravin on Shabbos?

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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #662 on: April 13, 2016, 08:21:22 PM »
How long on average can a bottle of wine be kept without storing it properly? Just sitting in the cupboard?
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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #663 on: April 13, 2016, 10:00:46 PM »
Do you use the Coravin on Shabbos?
Yes. Is it a problem?
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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #664 on: April 13, 2016, 10:54:38 PM »
Is this the appropriate thread for my review of the new Welch's OU grape juice? I'm aware there is a thread discussing the product, but I want to write a serious review for oenophiles such as my self. Here are my notes:

Robust appearance. A hearty and opaque deep purple gives but a hint of the royal experience that is in store.  Notes of high fructose corn syrup in the nose. Succulent fruit punch flavors are backed by hints of Laffy Taffy and Twizzlers. It has a soft, almost lush texture that allows the finish to linger and yet still provides plenty of refreshing flavor. There's enough grip to stand up to myriad food pairings--anything from gefilte fish to peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Cloying, but I mean that in a totally good way.

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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #665 on: April 13, 2016, 11:21:12 PM »
Is this the appropriate thread for my review of the new Welch's OU grape juice? I'm aware there is a thread discussing the product, but I want to write a serious review for oenophiles such as my self. Here are my notes:

Robust appearance. A hearty and opaque deep purple gives but a hint of the royal experience that is in store.  Notes of high fructose corn syrup in the nose. Succulent fruit punch flavors are backed by hints of Laffy Taffy and Twizzlers. It has a soft, almost lush texture that allows the finish to linger and yet still provides plenty of refreshing flavor. There's enough grip to stand up to myriad food pairings--anything from gefilte fish to peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Cloying, but I mean that in a totally good way.

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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #666 on: April 13, 2016, 11:48:04 PM »
Yes. Is it a problem?

From Shirah:

A Grenache based blend, with big complex aromatics. Showcasing bright red fruit, and baking spice, lined with earth and flora. This is an easy drinking medium bodied wine with velvety tannins, soft acidity, and a long lingering finish. Some of the flavors on the palate include red fruit, tobacco, herbs, and spice.

In short decant but its a lighter wine known as a rhone style blend, its complex but different than a bordeux which is intense and powerful.

The Brodeux is my favorite... the nose is so powerful and complex.. blue notes... just intense!!

Do you have a vinturi ? if so, use the coravin say in to a glass and pour the glass through the vinturi in to another glass


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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #667 on: April 14, 2016, 01:11:47 AM »
Don't have a vinturi

You use it every time you drink?

In any case I paid less for the BroDuex and like it better....
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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #668 on: April 14, 2016, 11:55:56 AM »
Don't have a vinturi

You use it every time you drink?

In any case I paid less for the BroDuex and like it better....

Wine is not like dating... you are not looking for the soul mate.. its a continuous process, I love the brodeux most myself, they actually change the blends by year..2014 should have 4 or 5 grape types

Get a vinturi and run it through, use coravin to a glass then the glass pour through vinturi in to another glass.

I dont decant well, i'm terrible really but I also see it as a learning process to best understand a wine. I drink a bottle daily and as the evening goes on and the wine develops i'll get a better idea of it

I have a very basic knowledge of wine, I never read a book about drinking wines, I trust my palate and learn things first hand from making wine and science

I know what acid is, where it comes from.. You wont hear me drink a wine and tell you its got acid.. Can I tell? im sure.. but that isnt the point of drinking wine.

Stuff like tanins are good to know because the tanins need to integrate to the wine and often a young wine will be too taninic and thus it needs decanting or more aging, but this I can discern by tasting a wine as it develops and you realize it tastes much better now than 1 hour ago and when you had 1 month ago.

There is no uniform tasting jargon.. there are common monikers used like cat pee, dirty diapers, dead horse etc.. erstwhile used like animal, barnyard, spice, earth, mineral... stuff like tobaco, oak, sawdust, blue notes, spice, green notes, bell pepper, chocolate etc

But you should not be thinking like this when you drink.. ive drank hundreds of wines with the greatest palates in the kosher wine world and I gravitate more to discussion.

I may descreibe a wine as hot, which could be harsh tanins and thus decant
Green notes, Bell peppers could be a young wine or spice
Blue notes are confusing, I am not exactly sure of it but as it is attributed to california wines i'd assume its the strong discerning aroma in the brodeux.. supple yet powerful that draws you in for as long as you can inhale... I think blue because I think like berries or blossoms

Animal or dead horse is in a dirty malbec that tastes a bit like broscht

A french wine can display barnyard or dirty diapers...

Sawdust is awesome, a classic wine with tobacco, chocolate and saw dust is HHW Machpela 2009

And each flavor and aroma plays itself out differently in different wines.. for some they can be good, for others they can be bad.


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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #669 on: April 14, 2016, 12:02:23 PM »
I actually need to stop drinking my 2013 brodeux and drink 2012. 13 is still young.. Decant the 13 or run it through a vinturi.. if you liked it before it will blow you away once you have it decanted!!

If GESHEM is too light for you, you should try Sawyer, its a very robust syrah, but I still think geshem needs air.

The thing with geshem is that grenache is usually lighter, its got a bubble gum like flavor.. But you should the Mouvdre alone, thats phenomenal

I used to dislike pinots, thinking them light and fruity but pinot, like geshem, need to decant and let its character out

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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #670 on: April 18, 2016, 11:10:56 AM »
With pesach this week i'd recommend sprucing up the table with some nifty glassware

www.amazon.com/Wine-Enthusiast-Vivid-Decanter/dp/B000P7O518/ref=sr_1_5?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1460991249&sr=1-5
www.amazon.com/Luigi-Bormioli-Magnifico-35-ounce-Decanter/dp/B0012M6590/ref=sr_1_9?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1460991249&sr=1-9

I own and love both of these, cheap, elegant and lead free.

For wine glasses i'd recommend schott zweisel tritan for bed bath and beyond because #1 20% off and #2 if they break, they replace

http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/schott-zwiesel-tritan-pure-cabernet-glasses-set-of-6/1043807963?brandId=2992

Dont play around with fine glass, it revels in its delicate thinness although these are particularly strong.

Rinse out glasses then put a drop of soap in, fill to the top with water and let them soak overnight, rinse out in morning, make sure to clean the exterior rim.

Cheers

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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #671 on: April 18, 2016, 11:13:10 AM »
Keep in mind that if you decant, weigh the seder pace and however many are drinking with you, your wine may go flat if you start decanting 1 hour before kadesh and do berach while its been decanted for 4 hours

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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #672 on: April 18, 2016, 10:46:18 PM »
Keep in mind that if you decant, weigh the seder pace and however many are drinking with you, your wine may go flat if you start decanting 1 hour before kadesh and do berach while its been decanted for 4 hours
very good point.

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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #673 on: April 30, 2016, 10:30:43 PM »
2011 City Winery Reserve Petit Verdot -Prob one of the best bottles I've ever had.
Highly recommend.
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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #674 on: April 30, 2016, 10:36:24 PM »
Yarden Cabernet 2009. Ahh

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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #675 on: April 30, 2016, 10:44:06 PM »
2011 City Winery Reserve Petit Verdot -Prob one of the best bottles I've ever had.
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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #676 on: May 01, 2016, 02:49:13 PM »
Any idea how the 2011 compares to the 2012? I had the '11 but can only find the '12 for purchase.
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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #677 on: May 02, 2016, 09:48:07 AM »
Flam 2012 Reserve Cab was very good.
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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #678 on: May 02, 2016, 09:57:57 AM »
With pesach this week i'd recommend sprucing up the table with some nifty glassware

www.amazon.com/Wine-Enthusiast-Vivid-Decanter/dp/B000P7O518/ref=sr_1_5?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1460991249&sr=1-5
www.amazon.com/Luigi-Bormioli-Magnifico-35-ounce-Decanter/dp/B0012M6590/ref=sr_1_9?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1460991249&sr=1-9

I own and love both of these, cheap, elegant and lead free.

For wine glasses i'd recommend schott zweisel tritan for bed bath and beyond because #1 20% off and #2 if they break, they replace

http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/schott-zwiesel-tritan-pure-cabernet-glasses-set-of-6/1043807963?brandId=2992

Dont play around with fine glass, it revels in its delicate thinness although these are particularly strong.

Rinse out glasses then put a drop of soap in, fill to the top with water and let them soak overnight, rinse out in morning, make sure to clean the exterior rim.

Cheers

Oh I got this and love it www.amazon.com/Waiters-Corkscrew-HiCoup-All---one/dp/B00MSXW15E/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1460992189&sr=8-4
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Re: What's your favorite (kind of) wine?
« Reply #679 on: May 02, 2016, 11:14:13 AM »
Yarden Cabernet 2009. Ahh
I Like the 2010 better.