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TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« on: October 22, 2019, 08:50:19 AM »
 Title says it all.

$835 for kids. Earns 25k DL, 36k EY.

Available across the schedule, lots of seats, even pesach time.

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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2019, 09:08:24 AM »
Wow.

Just booked 7ppl pesach.

Awsome!

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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2019, 10:26:38 AM »
Did you book it? It looks like it might book into Premium economy instead of Business class.

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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2019, 10:27:38 AM »
Did you book it? It looks like it might book into Premium economy instead of Business class.
Wow.

Just booked 7ppl pesach.

Awsome!
Can you upload or email me your confirmation so that we can confirm it is indeed business and not premium economy?

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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2019, 10:43:43 AM »
Did you book it? It looks like it might book into Premium economy instead of Business class.

Yes, I booked it, and assigned seats in business. Books into E class.

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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2019, 10:52:33 AM »
Interesting (see below), looks like it is a Premium economy fare but it does look like it books into E class which is Business class.

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 2 AZ 848E 12NOV T FCOJNB*SS1  1010P  925A  13NOV W /DCAZ /E   
 3 AZ 849E 01DEC S JNBFCO*SS1   950P  705A  02DEC M /DCAZ /E   
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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2019, 11:03:04 AM »
Bookable with AMEX points + 35% refund = 70,000 points for round trip Business class to South Africa + the points earned from the flights makes it a pretty good deal!

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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2019, 11:22:22 AM »
You can also earn 57,746 Alitalia miles with Millemigalia Young.
That is more then enough for a one way Business class ticket TLV-JFK and you'd even get back 9600 miles.
You'd then have 19,346 miles left which is enough for a one way ticket TLV-Rome or another medium flight.

All told it's a very good deal!

Pay 70,000 AMEX points and get back almost 60,000 Alitalia points!

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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2019, 01:24:06 PM »
That may be a good point.
Possibly any members here that arent already into the business side, just dont want to be, or dont see the possibility to be thats me.
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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2019, 06:41:03 PM »
Wow. 355,809 CSR points for 6 tickets (2 adults, 4 kids), earning 346,476‬ alitalia points.
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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2019, 01:32:01 PM »
Wow. 355,809 CSR points for 6 tickets (2 adults, 4 kids), earning 346,476‬ alitalia points.
Booked?
I'm thinking of pulling the trigger myself but I don't see where I can fit it in  :-\

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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2019, 06:13:09 PM »
@Dan
Worthy of a DDMS post?

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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2019, 09:39:39 PM »
@Dan
Worthy of a DDMS post?
Will people really fly this way to JNB with fake J for 4 hours each way to FCO and doubling the length of the journey?
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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2019, 09:41:31 PM »
FCO is 3h. But yeah.
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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2019, 09:52:31 PM »
FCO is 3h. But yeah.
Showing 3:50 outbound.
Bigger problem is you've taken an 8 hour flight and turned it into a 16 hour Italian nightmare. Am I off base here? I feel like I'd suck it up and fly LY Y at half the price, especially with kids in tow.
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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2019, 11:43:05 PM »
Showing 3:50 outbound.
Bigger problem is you've taken an 8 hour flight and turned it into a 16 hour Italian nightmare. Am I off base here? I feel like I'd suck it up and fly LY Y at half the price, especially with kids in tow.
Check actual flight history. Flight time is between 3:05 and 3:15.

Are you ignoring the airport experience? It looks like TLV improved their hand luggage security screening for Economy (I honestly never understood the old setup - did they really want people leaving the country to be stuck with that final terrible experience?), but that also goes into the overall equation.

Personally, I would take a 3 hour fake J + real J (even angle flat), with a decent airport experience over 8 hours in cattle class (even if that wasn't LY, עאכו״כ וכו׳ וד״ל).
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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2019, 11:45:49 PM »
Are you ignoring the airport experience? It looks like TLV improved their hand luggage security screening for Economy (I honestly never understood the old setup - did they really want people leaving the country to be stuck with that final terrible experience?), but that also goes into the overall equation.

Personally, I would take a 3 hour fake J + real J (even angle flat), with a decent airport experience over 8 hours in cattle class (even if that wasn't LY, עאכו״כ וכו׳ וד״ל).
Never flew Y from TLV. Enlighten me.

It's not 3 vs 8. It's 16 vs 8.
I guess it really depends on whether you're with kids or not.
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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2019, 11:55:32 PM »
Never flew Y from TLV. Enlighten me.

It's not 3 vs 8. It's 16 vs 8.
I guess it really depends on whether you're with kids or not.
Can't talk about current situation, but it was literally like a cattle round up in a hot room splitting into several exit lanes with screeners.

As for 16 vs 8, that's just one part of the equation. My memories of FCO are far from fond memories. Though that was flying Y and probably a decade ago. 

I am not saying what I would do in this specific case. IDK, it's not relevant to me, and since I don't think this is valid ex JNB, probably not relevant to some people I know (though their ignorance shone through when I sent them the link prior to checking details of whether it's available ex-JNB).
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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2019, 01:25:17 AM »
@Dan totally agree with you, I was considering buying for next summer for a family trip but reconsidered. Especially considering the fact that at least in one direction you likely want to add on additional travel
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Re: TLV - JNB $1000 Business Class with Alitalia
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2019, 01:42:55 AM »
Will people really fly this way to JNB with fake J for 4 hours each way to FCO and doubling the length of the journey?

I booked it with 2 kids.

I don't really care about the extra flight time, especially because the long hauls are pretty well timed for me, and there's no time difference. Considering all the value in points I'm getting back, really seems worth it over LY Y.

I guess I'll report back in February if it was a good idea or not.  ;D