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Re: Master Thread: Education - College, Yeshiva, Seminary. Post Here.
« Reply #75 on: May 13, 2014, 05:01:55 PM »
So someone said they will FORSURE hire you if you get an MBA from any school? I would double check that and get that in writing. If he/she already decided to hire you why do they need you to get a no name MBA? If not I wouldn't rely on it. You want advice on getting a solid job in the financial sector go to a REAL college (not touro not FDU forsure not BTL) Cuny can be fine if you can do it in Baruch or major in accounting. Obviously NYU stern undergrad is or Columbia undergrad would be ideal but those are really hard to get into. Maybe sy syms school. Graduate with good grades get a decent job work your butt off and study for GMATS gets a great grade on GMAT get into good business school. Get recruited by the heavy hitters.

Going yeshivesh on this won't help you at all. Unless you family is loaded and your going into the business, in that case I'm not sure why you need an MBA.

Once you're doing all that school, you may as well be a dentist

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Re: Master Thread: Education - College, Yeshiva, Seminary. Post Here.
« Reply #76 on: May 13, 2014, 05:15:50 PM »
Once you're doing all that school, you may as well be a dentist

but then you would be a dentist

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« Reply #77 on: May 13, 2014, 05:37:29 PM »
but then you would be a dentist
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Re: Master Thread: Education - College, Yeshiva, Seminary. Post Here.
« Reply #78 on: May 13, 2014, 09:54:56 PM »
that!  Its quiet commen. Esp in businesses where ur good at what u do but the company needs to have it to show ur qualified.

I am not doing this. I am actually looking into BA NHA from nyu and st Josephs.
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Re: Master Thread: Education - College, Yeshiva, Seminary. Post Here.
« Reply #79 on: May 13, 2014, 10:30:20 PM »
I'm looking into computer science was thinking about a bachelor and then a master just that someone pointed out to me that it may be better to do a certificate that do a degree I wanted to hear what other people think of that

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« Reply #80 on: May 13, 2014, 10:58:19 PM »
I'm looking into computer science was thinking about a bachelor and then a master just that someone pointed out to me that it may be better to do a certificate that do a degree I wanted to hear what other people think of that
Do PCS's course.

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Re: Master Thread: Education - College, Yeshiva, Seminary. Post Here.
« Reply #81 on: May 13, 2014, 11:26:45 PM »
Do PCS's course.
is that nace.org? Or eah.edu?

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« Reply #82 on: May 13, 2014, 11:59:00 PM »
So someone said they will FORSURE hire you if you get an MBA from any school? I would double check that and get that in writing. If he/she already decided to hire you why do they need you to get a no name MBA? If not I wouldn't rely on it. You want advice on getting a solid job in the financial sector go to a REAL college (not touro not FDU forsure not BTL) Cuny can be fine if you can do it in Baruch or major in accounting. Obviously NYU stern undergrad is or Columbia undergrad would be ideal but those are really hard to get into. Maybe sy syms school. Graduate with good grades get a decent job work your butt off and study for GMATS gets a great grade on GMAT get into good business school. Get recruited by the heavy hitters.

Going yeshivesh on this won't help you at all. Unless you family is loaded and your going into the business, in that case I'm not sure why you need an MBA.

The issue is that someone people will accept your advice and say "Eh, if Im not going to HBS then its not worth getting an MBA. I beg to differ. Some companies (and I mean non-jewish ones) will require an MBA or equivalent degree to get to a certain level and pay grade. Yes, a lot of materiel you will learn in some of these MBA programs may not be relevant but you will still have an MBA (as appose to listening to MR Anonymous on DDF telling you that a degree is not necessary).

Another point is that not everyone is a go-getter and can 'make it' without a degree. Some people follow the system without shortcuts.

Lastly, you never knows where life takes you. I have a friend that had 7 years working experience but doesn't have his high school diploma. Now he cant get a job. However if he had 7 years experience plus an MBA, he would have a bigger chance of getting something in the competitive job market.

The bottom line is that if you have the time and are able to do it, I would recommend it.

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« Reply #83 on: May 14, 2014, 12:53:15 AM »
The issue is that someone people will accept your advice and say "Eh, if Im not going to HBS then its not worth getting an MBA. I beg to differ. Some companies (and I mean non-jewish ones) will require an MBA or equivalent degree to get to a certain level and pay grade. Yes, a lot of materiel you will learn in some of these MBA programs may not be relevant but you will still have an MBA (as appose to listening to MR Anonymous on DDF telling you that a degree is not necessary).

Another point is that not everyone is a go-getter and can 'make it' without a degree. Some people follow the system without shortcuts.

Lastly, you never knows where life takes you. I have a friend that had 7 years working experience but doesn't have his high school diploma. Now he cant get a job. However if he had 7 years experience plus an MBA, he would have a bigger chance of getting something in the competitive job market.

The bottom line is that if you have the time and are able to do it, I would recommend it.

Here's what you missed MBA cost more than just time it cost lots of money too. Taking out 100k in loans is very risky thing to do for a no/name MBA. You got to a serious cost/benefit analysis. Again if you have a job that requires it to get to the next level then it might be worth but to stake getting a job on it I think is foolish. Think if your sitting behind a desk and someone comes in with no real undergrad degree and an MBA from FDU - would it really change anything?

As for your friend big diffrence between not having HS diploma and an MBA. I'm not advocating for short cuts on the contrary I'm saying that one should take no shortcuts at all go all out get a regular real college degree, then see where that leads you. Baby steps.

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« Reply #84 on: May 14, 2014, 01:00:11 AM »
I hear your point. Definitely worth getting a BA so that you can have the option to go for an MBA or CPA in the future and not start fishing for college  credits from ur old yeshivas wen ur 35.

Btw the Bellevue MBA program is about 35k.

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« Reply #85 on: May 14, 2014, 01:11:16 AM »
is that nace.org? Or eah.edu?
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« Reply #86 on: May 14, 2014, 01:33:16 AM »
I hear your point. Definitely worth getting a BA so that you can have the option to go for an MBA or CPA in the future and not start fishing for college  credits from ur old yeshivas wen ur 35.

Btw the Bellevue MBA program is about 35k.

Which should speak volumes to its value.

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« Reply #87 on: May 14, 2014, 01:45:21 AM »
So wait, all of the guys who got Accounting degrees from FDU and work at Big 4 - didn't follow your lengthy and expensive prescribed plan and they are in the same place as they guys who went to Ivy league school.

Go figure.

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« Reply #88 on: May 14, 2014, 02:41:16 AM »
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Yes.

And @marks my BIL just got a job a delloite with his ACCT FDU degree (taking his CPA now)
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« Reply #89 on: May 14, 2014, 03:05:27 AM »
Yes.

And @marks my BIL just got a job a delloite with his ACCT FDU degree (taking his CPA now)

Just FYI
I know from an inside source high up at Deloitte that they will be sharply curtailing the hiring of Orthodox Yeshiva-students. Not because of any negative performances but because of the Shabboss/Yom Tov thing. When one team member isn't there for two days straight, it's extremely difficult to catch up and be a productive of the team.