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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #160 on: December 11, 2019, 11:23:32 AM »
This theory works with what law enforcement is saying now that they know for certain that this could have been far worse.

The bomb points to something scary. The fact that the police officer went on offense a mile away sounds like there's more to the story and that the police knew about something cooking up.

And here is where it gets confusing again, how does this work with the reports that the officer a mile away just went there about a separate criminal matter? (drug or previous homicide)

The plates were a hit. Luckily the criminals were dumb.

if they need something was cooking why would they send only one officer with no back up to try and stop them?

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #161 on: December 11, 2019, 11:24:55 AM »
Anti-Semitism is a motive. The area is densely populated with Jews between the school, synagogue, and grocery store and they clearly scouted out the area beforehand.
Bigger plans including a bomb were jettisoned after they murdered the cop. They continued to the area and went for the softest target, the kosher grocery without locked doors.

Odds of a prior dispute are close to nil IMHO.
Thank you for your take on it. Odds are good the full story will come out (what their master plan was).
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #162 on: December 11, 2019, 11:25:33 AM »
So what do you think. What did the police officer try to accomplish over there?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #163 on: December 11, 2019, 11:27:49 AM »
So what do you think. What did the police officer try to accomplish over there?
Flagged plates most probably = Traffic stop?!

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #164 on: December 11, 2019, 11:29:24 AM »
So what do you think. What did the police officer try to accomplish over there?

I think he had no idea what their plans where he just spotted the license plate or some other suspicious activity

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #165 on: December 11, 2019, 11:30:58 AM »
NEW YORK: Mayor de Blasio: Shooting at Jewish supermarket was “a premeditated, violent, anti-semitic, hate crime... you can say it was an act of terror.”

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #166 on: December 11, 2019, 11:44:29 AM »
Anti-Semitism is a motive. The area is densely populated with Jews between the school, synagogue, and grocery store and they clearly scouted out the area beforehand.
Bigger plans including a bomb were jettisoned after they murdered the cop. They continued to the area and went for the softest target, the kosher grocery without locked doors.

Odds of a prior dispute are close to nil IMHO.
IIRC the Shul next door is locked while the store isn't. makes your point stronger why the shooters didn't target the shul.

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #167 on: December 11, 2019, 11:44:47 AM »
Thank you for your take on it. Odds are good the full story will come out (what their master plan was).
Like the Las Vegas Massacre?

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #168 on: December 11, 2019, 11:45:42 AM »
Like the Las Vegas Massacre?
This is way different. It seems they already have a ton of info on these guys.
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #169 on: December 11, 2019, 11:51:18 AM »
IIRC the Shul next door is locked while the store isn't. makes your point stronger why the shooters didn't target the shul.
That was my assumption.
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #170 on: December 11, 2019, 11:57:13 AM »
Is it possible first officer inadvertently averted a worse major planned attack?

Just speculating. T
Again, if you take all the facts before the investigation is over, there is a puzzle.

Officer shot was on foot in a cemetery looking for bad guys, he was tasked with taking bad guys off the street, probably identified a possible suspected and before he had a chance to do anything he was shot, hence the reason why he never even called for backup. Once the perps realized their cover has blown cop they had no choice but to shoot, once they're cover was blown they had to take action and execute their plan.

All speculation but makes sense based on the facts.

See pic of in store, seems like a ring camera? ring shares your info with police, officially only with permission, police could've and most likely got this footage instantly following or during the attack. Those cameras are clear and can give to understand why police believe after reviewing the footage that the attack was targeted.
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #171 on: December 11, 2019, 12:06:48 PM »
JERSEY CITY: Miguel Jason Rodriguez ID’d as third victim horrifically gunned down at the Kosher Supermarket. He was working at the store for a year.

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #173 on: December 11, 2019, 12:16:04 PM »
A little about the officer.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/police-officer-killed-in-jersey-city-shooting-was-a-15-year-veteran-and-father-of-five/ar-AAK04Bd?ocid=spartandhp

He was an accomplished cop and a really sad loss.

Also want to point out that the article mentions that they don't know why the Seals was at the cemetery, which means it wasn't a sting. Also means Seals was likely following a hunch or suspicious vehicle he found and unfortunately his hunch was right.
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #174 on: December 11, 2019, 12:22:33 PM »
Also want to point out that the article mentions that they don't know why the Seals was at the cemetery, which means it wasn't a sting. Also means Seals was likely following a hunch or suspicious vehicle he found and unfortunately his hunch was right.
A sting operation would have backup.
Were these guys actually driving around in the cemetery?
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #175 on: December 11, 2019, 12:26:19 PM »
A sting operation would have backup.
Were these guys actually driving around in the cemetery?
Criminals tend to hang out in places they think they wont get caught.

He was an accomplished cop and a really sad loss.

Also want to point out that the article mentions that they don't know why the Seals was at the cemetery, which means it wasn't a sting. Also means Seals was likely following a hunch or suspicious vehicle he found and unfortunately his hunch was right.
Again, if you take all the facts before the investigation is over, there is a puzzle.

Officer shot was on foot in a cemetery looking for bad guys, he was tasked with taking bad guys off the street, probably identified a possible suspected and before he had a chance to do anything he was shot, hence the reason why he never even called for backup. Once the perps realized their cover has blown cop they had no choice but to shoot, once they're cover was blown they had to take action and execute their plan.

All speculation but makes sense based on the facts.
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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #177 on: December 11, 2019, 12:27:30 PM »
A sting operation would have backup.
Were these guys actually driving around in the cemetery?

on a rainy afternoon its a great place to not be noticed

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #178 on: December 11, 2019, 12:28:17 PM »

All the idiots politicizing it don't help too much.

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Re: Active Shooter Jersey City
« Reply #179 on: December 11, 2019, 12:34:37 PM »
All the idiots politicizing it don't help too much.
Its been ignored for far too long. The daily black on Jew attacks have got to be dealt with.